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The Pavilion of France along with the Pavilion of Quebec now comprise the casino. And your are correct in that the islands are put to good use. They are a destination for city residents because they remain a beautiful and interesting place. There are other remaining Expo structures including a portion of the Canadian Pavilion, the Pavilion of jamaica, the Paviilion of Korea, Place des Nations, the Biosphere and many other structures and monuments. Many of Expo's original lighting fixtures remain as well.

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I really liked those lighting fixtures... the ones where the light was reflected from a tube up into a reflector mounted on a pole. Really gave a soft illumination to the site. I'd love to get one for my yard. wink.gif

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I thin that if you go to Expo Lounge the creator of that site has a link to the Expo lighting inovations. I also know that many of those lighting fixtures remain on the islands today.

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Bill, are you sure that the black and white aerial view of the Expo site dates from 1980? I would probably date it to 1976 or 77 because in 78 the Formula 1 racetrack was constructed and is nowhere to be seen in the picture. The racetrack's construction forced a redesign of a large portion of Notre-Dame's island and the demolition of some pavilions.

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I had the great fortune to spend a week visiting expo67 (same time as Charles De Gaulle) and then Man and His World the following year, when it was most like the fair. Even then, it was obvious that it was no longer the same...but it was still awesome. It seems that only Disney has been able to sustain a "permanent" World's Fair type park in Epcot....and as much as I like Epcot it is nothing like a "real" World's Fair.

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When I first got privy of World's Fairs a little over a year ago, I had an inkling that they were familiar to me. It took me a few months to realize, but EPCOT is the closest thing to a world's fair iv'e been to. I have yet to go over there since that revalation, but the next time I do, I'll be sure to treat it as such. What makes it even more interesting, I think, is that EPCOT itself is also somewhat of a fair legacy. From its Horizons exhibit (I was unfortunate enough not to be old enough to remember it), to the various nation exhibits, even to the "theme" structure of Spaceship Earth and the Innoventions Halls, EPCOT is a permanent world's fair, but not many people realize it.

Of course, most of the members here are aware of this, but EPCOT was based off of ideas Disney got from the 1939 World's Fair in New York, and refined and finalized at the 1964 NY World's Fair. He even asked Robert Moses the possibilities of purchasing the fairground for use as EPCOT after the fair.

However, I agree with George - as much as it may be a world's fair, that was not the original idea Disney had, and through "pavilions" such as Test Track and Mission: Space, that idea is well justified. It is, however, the closest year-round thing to a fair one has, or at least, until Expo 2010 opens :)

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Earlier in this thread there was some mention of Les Floralies Internationales de Montreal, a floral show held on the Expo grounds in 1980. Here's a view of the Italian garden:

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More to follow...

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Possibly one of the last times to catch Man And His World before it closed the next year. I wonder if any of the flora from this floral exhibition remain as part of the parks decoration today?

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Looking at this picture I would say summer of 1976 or 1977. It's after the Biosphere fire (May 1976) for sure. Also before the Canadian pavilion demolition in 1978 because we still see it on the picture.

Ask and ye shall receive. We have had the PTU/WFC staff scouring the far reaches of the Earth for you.

Here's a view of the site in 1980 as they were preparing for the "Les Floralies Internationales de Montreal" floral show.

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Thirteen years after the fair and quite a bit of it was still there. I can't say the Olympic rowing basin does much for me.

By the way, the staff is compiling a list of their expenses and we'll be sending the invoice shortly.

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By the summer of 1976, Ile Notre Dame was virtually closed. It was no longer an active part of Man and His World. The mini-train still functioned and one could board it on Ile Ste Helene, cross the Lemoyne Channel and ride the train through the abandoned pavilions on Ile Notre Dame. It was almost surreal.

I was there during the Olympic summer and all that was really left of Man and His World was found on Ile Ste Helene. La Ronde was vibrant and it seemed as if there were many visitors to the islands especially in the weeks prior to the Olympics and during the games. But the fire in the former US pavilion and the empty and deteriorating pavilions on Ile Notre Dame were rather depressing. After that summer, the place faced dramatic decline and it closed forever in 1981.

I agree that the rowing basin is hardly an aesthetic asset. I recall riding the mini-train and seeing the empty site that had been the pavilion of the Federal Republic of Germany (east of the British pavilion) along with other vacant sites. Some had been cleared earlier and some had been demolished to make way for the rowing basin leaving only a portion of the original pavilion site visible. The Ontario Pavilion appears to be missing in this photograph. It burned in 1975. It stood between the Quebec pavilion and the Canada Katimavik).

The site of the Soviet Pavilion appears to be a grassy area. It stood directly across the Lemoyne Channel from the US Pavilion and was removed to Moscow in 1968.

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Unfortunately the formatting didn't come through in that posting - it looks like a wealth of information. Do you have that in a file that you could e-mail me if the system won't let you post it correctly?

Thanks

Bill

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Bill, this really is a monumental task. I suspect that pavilion use changed almost every year. Your chart does tell me that the NYS pavilion remained for at least ten years. I just don't recall seeing it, unfortunately. I do know that the Korean Pavilion remains today. It stood near the NYS pavilion and just south of the USA pavilion. I remember reading that it is basically used as a bus waiting area on Ile Ste. Helene today. Nevertheless, it is still there.

In case I have not said it recently, I truly appreciate this site and the work you do. I have to learn how to scan photographs and download images to share. However, I am very grateful to you for your efforts for all of us and for providing this opportunity to expound on our passions for great fairs.

Jim

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My pleasure, Jim. I feel I have gotten a a lot back in return, both in the way of information and in some new friends met along the way.

I have seen way too many people collect things then squirrel them away, never to be seen again. If I had the time I would scan and post everything I have amassed over the years, as it doesn't do anyone any good stuck buried in a filing cabinet. I love the way so many people have contributed parts of their own collections and knowledge over the years.

What sort of hep do you need to become a member of Scanaholics Anonymous?

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Well, I actually bought a Kodak printer that claims it will scan stuff. I assume that means photographs, post cards, all sorts of paper stuff etc. (although I am well aware that to assume makes an ass of u and me). What I DON'T know is how to make that magic happen. When I scan an image, where does it go? Then how do I make it appear here?

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When you scan something it can either go into the computer memory (RAM) for editing by the scanning program, or save to the disk drive. What printer model is it? Or do you know the name of the scanning software?

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Here is an aerial view of Man and his World during the summer of 1978. You can see the racetrack under construction. Also a lot of pavilions are already gone on Île Notre-Dame at this time including the Katimavik that was demolished earlier that year to clear the way for the racetrack. You can see where it was and the interference with the racetrack.

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This is a very intersting photograph. I got to see the Katimavik the summer prior to its demolition. The decision to remove it, as I stated in a previous post, must have been very painful for the people of Montreal. It was a powerful iconic image of Expo. Do you have any photographs of its demolition?

PS: Louis, I recall that when Pierre Laporte was killed by the FLQ in October of 1970, his body was found in the trunk of an automobile at the Expo site. I have often found that so ironic in that Expo was such a moment of national unity and just three years later, the October Crisis resulted in death and martial law. Do you know where that car was located on the Expo site? Have you heard this story?

Jim

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No Jim I don't have picture of the Katimavik demolition.

Actually Bill is right, Pierre Laporte was found dead in a car close to the St-Hubert airport. What relate the Expo site to the October 1970 events is that the other FLQ gang requested to release James Richard Cross at the Man and his World site. I suppose they thought it was some kind of a neutral area due to its international purpose.

Louis

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