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  1. 3 points
    After YEARS of delay, finally construction has started. Still don't know how much will get done and how fast, but the excellent and very much in demand "construction guy", Howie, is hot on it now and has done this much in two days, with the wood base cut and ready, but still not in place. However, the frame is almost complete. Most of the glass and plexi have to be replaced, but I am trying to figure out something to do with the original WF pieces of glass (only a few were not damaged in the taking down of the church/pavilion in Poway). We're waiting on the new glass and plexi, so that might be a short delay, as they are all custom pieces. Enjoy, news as it happens.
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    Alan Abel, a resident of Connecticut and a life long "professional hoaxer," died on Friday. I mention this under general discussion because, in 1964, he and his wife, Jeanne , co-authored a book, The President I Almost Was, supposedly written by Mrs. Yetta Bronstein who ran an independent presidential campaign that year. Yetta formed her own political party (The Best Party) and used the slogan, "Vote For Yetta And Things Will Get Betta." They even handed out campaign materials in front of the White House and many, including members of the press, believed the campaign was real. Mr. Abel, in 1959, also created a bogus campaign known as SINA (Society for Indecency to Naked Animals) and, in 1963, demanded that Mrs. Kennedy, then First Lady, clothe her naked horses especially when riding in the Virginia countryside. Many news organizations, including the NY Times covered his 1963 protest outside of the White House. He proposed clothing any animal that stood taller than four inches and longer than six inches and the press fell for it. I mention all of this because Mr. Abel's hilarious and fictitious account of the 1964 presidential campaign has a chapter devoted to Yetta's campaign swing through the 1964 NY World's Fair. She focuses on her aching feet, the crowds and fair food. Not much is said about the issues of the day because, of course, the whole thing was a hoax. Mr. Abel also has the unique distinction of tricking the NY Times into writing an obituary for him in 1980. Mr. Abel got his family and friends in on the hoax and he went into hiding for several weeks and the Times reported his death of a heart attack with the headline: Alan Abel, Satirist Created Campaign To Clothe Animals. This time, following his death on Friday of this week, the Times did full research to be certain Mr. Abel was, indeed, dead. The Times notes that Mr. Abel "apparently did die" at his Connecticut home on Friday. That bogus obituary, written in full faith in 1980, prompted the Times to print the only retraction for such a fake obituary in its long history. Today's accurate obit calls Mr. Abel "an American original" much like P.T. Barnum. In a crazy world that seems to become nuttier each day, Mr. Abel was a remarkable character who brought humor and joy. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/obituaries/alan-abel-dies.html
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    Wasn't born until a more than a decade after the gates closed - I find it a unique spot of optimism in a time when it seemed like the world was going downhill. Also it's interesting to see the origins of much of today's communication and computing technology. I did go to EPCOT Center when it was fairly new (1984) and I'd imagine it had a similar effect on me as the NYWF did for kids then. Sadly, that version of EPCOT is mostly gone too. Ironically, much of my interest in the NYWF came from seeing the Carousel of Progress that still runs at Disney World.
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    This wonderful shot, Kodachrome I assume, was posted on one of my aviation-related Facebook pages. Amazing they were able to get a crisp and clear image from one moving aircraft to another.
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    Thanks for the California Gold link - it's great!
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    I've always figured they were placed there for aesthetic reasons and really no more. Having said this, they've always looked cheap to me. Even the sculpture at the 1939 fair, although temporary, had a much more effective look of permanence.
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    The UK pavilion from Expo 2015 will have (opening 18 June 2016) a new home at Kew Gardens London (www.kew.org/visit-kew-gardens/explore/attractions/hive) Kew already has a remnant of a Japanese Gateway from an earlier (colonial) fair (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kew_Gardens#Ornamental_buildings) So I'll be able to see 2 remnants in a single trip. And for me the first remnant that I will see from a fair that I actually attended
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    As I think about Mr. Abel and the joy he found in his hilarious hoaxes, I think of Don Novello's book, The Lazlo Letters. It was actually one of several books he wrote using the name, Lazlo Toth. (The real Toth was the man who attacked the Pieta with a hammer.) In any event, Novello's four books are hilarious because he tweaks the noses of corporate ceo's, politicians, television actors and other well known people. The letters appear to be from a writer who is rather clueless, highly opinionated and not terribly bright. They are funny, but the responses he received and prints in his books are funny beyond words. Many recipients believe he is a real customer or constituent and they respond accordingly. Those responses make one wonder how anyone could be sitting in an office seriously responding to the nonsense Toth has sent them. For example, NASA's response to Toth's questions about how much it would cost to drive a car to the Moon (standard transmission, compact, self-serve gasoline,) is incredibly funny. As I recall, the NASA writer spends two pages explaining why it would be impossible to drive to the Moon "because there is no road." Toth's letter expressing outrage to the Mars company after finding two M&Ms melted together in a pack he had purchased is another example of Novello's wit. He tells them they are unAmerican because they fail to realize the national embarrassment such a discovery of flawed M&MS might cause if a communist had purchased that package. That was over forty years ago, of course. As I recall, Mars responded by defending their manufacturing process and sending him a case of free candy. Don Novello also played Father Guido Sarducci on SNL many years ago.
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    San Francisco's Midwinter Exposition was in many ways a scaled-down version of Chicago's 1893 World's Columbian Exposition....a major difference being that the main structures were designed in an eclectic mixture of architectural styles....California Mission, Romanesque, Egyptian, Indian, and Persian. The central "Court of Honor" featured the 266-foot high Bonet Electric Tower, illuminated at night with multi-colored lights, around which were grouped the Administration, Horticulture & Agriculture, Fine Arts, Manufactures, and Machinery buildings. The exposition even featured a smaller version of Chicago's famous 250-foot Ferris Wheel - the 100-foot diameter Firth Wheel. The Japanese Village was one of the more notable attractions which survives to this day as the Japanese Tea Garden; and the Court of Honor remains as the Music Concourse. Court of Honor & Electric Tower.... Administration Building & California Fountain.... Administration Building.... California Fountain.... Horticulture & Agriculture Building & California Fountain.... Horticulture & Agriculture Building.... Fine Arts Building.... Manufactures Building.... Machinery Building.... Electric Tower.... Night panorama of exposition from Strawberry Hill.... Firth Wheel.... Japanese Village....
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    Interesting! Thanks, Jim. I only WISH the nonsense I hear these days was a hoax.
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    Based on Ken's great post-- here's a few modern day shots of what remains.
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    Sadly, they just dropped the roof sheets to the floor, smashing the map and shattering the sheets. There was no attempt at all to salvage anything. All of the broken pieces were hauled off to a landfill and buried. One more bad decision in a long and sad series of mistakes made about the pavilion.
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    I've been working over the past year or so to standardize the "look and feel" of nywf64.com ... Every page has a navigation banner near the top with topics that have drop-down menus behind them directing you to the various features found on the website (for example: "Attractions", "Maps", "Artifacts", etc.) Each page now has a secondary banner giving a brief description of what you are looking at (for example: "1964 & 1965 Official Guidebook & Souvenir Map Entries") The secondary banner is headed by a Table of Contents button. Clock-on the Table of Contents button to get a drop-down menu of the various pages that can be found within that topic (see below). For Attractions (such as IBM, Eastman Kodak, Republic of China, etc.) the first few pages have been standardized whenever possible. The first page will always contain the 1964 & 1965 Guidebook entries along with a link to a map showing you the location of the attraction. The next page contains the page from the World's Fair Information Manual for the exhibit or attraction (presented courtesy of the Gary Holmes collection). The World's Fair Information Manual was the book that the guides in the information booths used to reference for visitors what was contained in each attraction. The next page features Postcards issued for that exhibit. The following page features any advertisements that were done for the exhibit and the page following that is a gallery of photographs and miscellaneous items. Pages that follow those contain brochures, magazine articles, booklets, etc. in no particular order. The website is always a "work in progress" so certainly not every artifact from the fair is online. Maybe someday... There's a lot of stuff at nywf64.com and because of that it's not always easy to find things there. One always has to second-guess how the visitor navigates the site. If you have any questions about site navigation or comments about the material or errors that you find, please contact me and let me know. The Search Feature is not working at this time. I hopefully will be able to get that back up and running sooner than later. As always, thanks for your interest in my website. I hope you find it entertaining and educational. Best, Bill Young -- Host, nywf64.com
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    Drone video - Rocket Thrower and Unisphere
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    He might have been trying to hijack Tik Tok the Seiko Robot from this guy.... :D
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    Seeing as most of the flora taken were annuals, and it was already mid-October...I'm at a loss. Even if kept indoors, these flowers had very limited life left.
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    I have mixed feelings on the pilfering on the last day. Having seen the "After the Fair Closed" photos, it seems to me that souvenir-taking didn't harm anybody, ultimately. The whole darned place got plowed under after all was said and doneā€¦ even those flower beds. At the very least, those flowers weren't going to be maintained that season, or any subsequent season over the next few years. It's a tough call. I think I'd rather see happy memories being preserved by ladies who appreciated them than having them bulldozed under.
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    I'm guessing Kodachrome and long exposures on a tripod - they sure are "National Geographic" quality.
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    I thought mental anguish was just a regular part of marriage....
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    "He runs his own show." That is about as clear a statement about Robert Moses that I have ever read. It is also interesting to consider the idea that if he had not been so antagonistic to the BIE, at least in the view of the Times, that group might have turned a blind eye to its member nations participating in 1964 without their official approval. How unfortunate the conflict unfolded as it did. PS: I have never understood why someone would go to a world's fair and then complain, no less, because the amusement area was not adequate--whatever that means. When I think of NYC in 1964, there were amusement parks all over the area. A world's fair was a once-in-a-lifetime event for most. One can ride a roller coaster anywhere. I understand there was no major attraction in the amusement area in 1964; no giant ferris wheel or parachute jump, but there was so much to see and do without crossing that bridge toward Meadow Lake.
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    I think there were a great many changes resulting from NYC's financial meltdown. Do you remember the Daily News front page that screamed "Ford To City: Drop Dead"? While his decision not to sign a bailout bill for the City of New York certainly helped cost him the state in the 1976 election, he was probably correct. The state was fortunate to have Governor Carey who did make the tough choices to stop the fiscal irresponsibility that had existed for decades.
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    Well, is it is 1x4x9 its a monolith from 2001! Eric
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    The 1965 guide book does not mention it.
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    Back to the dog... would pets of any kind have been allowed on the fairgrounds? This was long before the "emotional support" animal scam started.
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    First Man on the Moon indeed! But during the World's Fair, he had yet to fly on anything in space. I can just see one of these kids bringing home the autograph, and their dad saying who did you get? "I don't know, some Armstrong guy. They didn't have any REAL astronauts there today, just this guy. I guess he works for NASA or something."... and a few weeks later it ending up in the trash. Today, of course, that's the autograph that people bid big bucks for, more than any other astronaut.
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    Take a look at this shot of folks entering Gotham Plaza in September 1964. See the striped umbrella? Underneath it someone was selling the official guide books under a sign "2 For the Price of 1". Now stop and think about that for a moment. Sure, the Fair would be ending soon, and you would want to clear out as much inventory as possible. Why, though, would most Fair visitors have wanted two copies of the guide? Especially if you then had to carry the extra one around with you all day. Wouldn't you be more likely to sell guides at 1/2 off, ending up with the same amount per copy? I guess if the guy was going to sell 1,000 copies, then under his plan he would have $1,000 in cash and only $500 under mine. However, what if he actually sold a lot more copies due to the lower price? It would be interesting to find out which of these two schemes would have been the more profitable one in the end. I just can't imagine his sales went up a great deal with the "2 for 1" offer.
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    Ah, the smell of freshly printed dittos...
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    It's interesting that there were all sorts of campaigns to encourage guests to meet at one of the General Foods arches, or of course, "Meet Me at at the Smoke Rings", but I don't recall any "Meet me at the oddly shaped and unlabeled tower". They were quite massive and seemingly solidly built - but really sort of useless. I don't remember seeing any publicity material on them, at least not yet.
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    An enduring image of Dominican nuns: Asking a student to answer the first catechism question, "Who is God." I actually listened to a classmate respond (in grade four) with a fairly remarkable discourse on his view of the Almighty. Trouble is that was not what the provided answer stated. See, this kid was a "non-Catholic"--the term used for everyone else on the planet who would not be going to heaven. In any event, the correct answer was "God is love." Now, imagine one of those black and white Dominicans pounding that same kid right onto the floor all the time shouting, "God is love and don't you ever forget it!"
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    Yeah, I was wondering about that Joe Bell thing. I wonder what he called his mother?
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    The raising of the World's Fair flag this Sunday brought a smile to everyone's face.
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    When I graduated from college in 1973 one of the companies I interviewed with was Kodak. Having long been into photography I was absolutely thrilled that they were interested in me. They flew me up to Rochester and at the hotel they had a looseleaf binder waiting for me with "Kodak Welcomes Bill Cotter" printed on it and the next day's schedule inside. Man, was I excited... Well, the next day I went through a series of interviews, and the enthusiasm began to diminish. Basically they wanted to make sure that their Instamatic line of cameras lasted through the warranty period but not forever. As they explained it to me, they wanted to ensure design components were robust enough that Kodak didn't lose money on warranty repairs, but that they would eventually wear out. So, if a camera might have a one year warranty on it, and in that period an average user might take 500 pictures, a spring inside the camera should be sure to last 500 cycles - but didn't need to last 5,000. Then, to further disillusion me, the camera was to be designed so that it would be far more expensive to take it apart and get to that spring than it would be to replace the whole camera. This was so people would not be able to take it to a non-Kodak place and have a spring easily replaced. Instead, the labor to take it apart, or parts that simply could not be taken apart then put back together, say by gluing them, would prove too expensive. To say I was disappointed in all this was an understatement. I told them right there that I wasn't interested in any planned obsolescence, and maybe I was completely idealistic but I wanted to build the best cameras I could. I also didn't see much work of interest for an electrical engineer as there were very few electronic components in the Instamatic line. They told me they understood and immediately set up a new set of interviews with the Carousel projector team. That team was a bit better but there was still little that I could see for an electrical engineer to do. I declined their offer, hating to have to do so, and went on to design systems for the Navy's missile subs. They had a very different view on quality and component life indeed! I've thought often about that day in Rochester. Everyone I met from Kodak was nice, but they were only interested in selling a lot of a unit, not in selling the best unit. Over the years I've bought a lot of different cameras and lenses, but the only Kodak camera I ever bought was a disc camera for my wife, and anyone familiar with that product line knows what a debacle that was. The current state of the company thus doesn't surprise me, but it sure disappoints me. Bill
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    Here's something I'm curious about. We're not sure of the date the Fair Corporation installed the anenometer, but I wonder if they kept daily records of the wind readings at that location, and whether those records might still be in the archives at the NYPL? If we set up an anenometer today at roughly the same location (the skate park) and took daily readings, I wonder how it would compare? (monthly averages of course) Might the pavilions lining the street coming off the Meadow Lake Bridge have acted as a 'wind tunnel'- making the wind even more pronounced, much stronger that it would be today without the buildings lining the street? If so, I wonder if the Astral Fountain was a 'great concept, wrong location', and it would have been better placed somewhere else in the Fairgrounds that was less subject to high winds? I've heard a lot of reports from 1965 visitors that the Astral Fountain was turned off most of the time. Which was too bad, in that it must have been quite a spectacular sight when operating. Sadly, I can also see why they had to dismantle it when the Fair closed. Without hundreds of Pinkies patrolling the grounds of FMCP, the cage would have looked like a big jungle gym to kids and there would have been injury lawsuits all over the place. And with all those pumps & pipes there is some maintenance cost to think about- ,more than your average fountain. But you'd think some city or municipality somewhere might have been interested in acquiring it to put in the middle of a traffic circle or some suitable location with few kids. In fact, it could have been mounted in a harbor or in the middle of a small lake.
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    Well, if some of today's technology was around in 1939 perhaps something about not texting while walking by the fountains under the Perisphere. Imagine all these people just walking to the water while not looking. In 1939 there was no little ledge to prevent this. Then see them posting about it to Facebook before they even get out. I am increasingly saddened by seeing people who need to experience things through a screen despite actually being there. Eric
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    Do I dare say it . . . maybe smoking had something to do with the weight issue. A far greater percentage of the U.S. population smoked in the mid-60s and I think that a larger percentage of Europeans smoke versus Americans today. I've often heard that weight gain comes when one quits smoking. Just a theory.
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    Despite the moniker of "Chunky Square', notice how few fat people there were back in the 60's. This country has certainly gotten out of shape!
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    Sorry, I'm not buying this one. One school group just happens to find so many time capsules, when most of the things are lost over time? Must be great detectives. Then the stuff they "found"? Those capsules must have been the size of a small car to hold some of the items shown. All of which, by the way, appear to be in perfect shape? Not a sign of mildew or any other damage? Add in things like the 16mm films as mentioned, and a very childish looking note from President Johnson, and I would suggest there were recreated piles of stuff from the selected years and not real time capsules. No newspapers, no letters from the mayor, no pictures of "Our town today"? Nope, not buying it.
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    Nice find, Bill. Yeah, those two phones on the side of 7-Up seem to be in a remote spot... can we have an aerial on those? Awesome photo of the 7-Up clock, too! BTW, I smell a rat on that bus removal! And Mike, here's something we spotted in Las Vegas. :blink: Dr. Reefer link
  43. 1 point
    ooh!ooh! A "see you later, alligator" filter! [i know, I'm a bad boy...]
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    Hadn't planned on posting but on reflection consider it my responsibility to add to the chorus of praise for Edwin Newman. His Strictly Speaking and journalistic integrity served as a gyrocompass to my learning to write good english! Younger people need to have people of Mr Newman's statue pointed out. He was certainly too refined to stoop to self-promotion. TV news is over. Has been for years. I think I posted elsewhere that twice "recently" I've had local news cameras and microphones thrust in my face and I chose to demure. Well, next time I won't. I have learned that everyone under 30 understands TV news to be a joke. I will use the opportunity to speak in non-sequiturs or a confusion of popular internet memes and readily repeated sound bites not quite weird enough to be edited out. If my interview is broadcast I will call the Gregory Brothers, ask them to Auto Tune my performance, and upload the words and chords to You Tube. If it begins to go viral, I will sell ads and make a fortune. That is the only thing TV news is good for. I miss Edwin Newman.
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    Just a little housekeeping.
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    I've now restored all the photos from six or seven years ago where possible (the ones that were ebay links are long gone). Yes, the Daisy badge was one of the ones being discussed. Do you know anything about it? Mike, did you say you have some documentation on it?
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    "The Astounding World of the Future" Incredibly accurate prediction of the world of the year 2000!
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    The people eating ice creaming are leaving the Fair- headed toward the trains, as is the college student. Can't tell about the lady in high heels, whether she's going or coming. Maybe the priest is coming to give her last rights. LOL
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    bumping this one up too, with the links all repaired. These were some of the best night photos we've seen, which some of our newer board members might not have had a chance to see.
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    Hello there good people. I once drank dregs and dregs of Tab. Tab is available here, in MI, by the case, and the 2 liter. I loved Fresca when it was a frosty green. Now, clear, it seems to have become an appendage of 7 up and Sprite. Moxie is an acquired taste, to be sure. My affection lies mostly in Ted Williams former endorsements for it. Growing up in MA: I never fully understood the allure of the Howard Johnson Clam Strip. The magic of a fried clam being, of course, it's belly. I remember Howard Johnson's well. My family often stopped by one of their highway side locations for a grilled hot dog, or ice cream cone. I recall that the hot dogs and ice cream were quite good. Does anyone recall the line of Howard Johnson frozen entrees? I was fond of the macaroni and cheese. Good to read you all again.
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