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What was under the Brass Rail balloons?

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Randy, the Brass Rails designed by Vollmer Associates showing elongated diamond shapes can be seen at the following links.

In the lower left corner <a href="http://www.nywf64.com/aerials24.html" target="_blank">http://www.nywf64.com/aerials24.html</a>

In the middle of the photo, between Indonesia and Central America <a href="http://www.nywf64.com/aerials03.html" target="_blank">http://www.nywf64.com/aerials03.html</a>

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I have a couple of questions about this photo: http://www.nywf64.com/aerials24.html

1) At the Brass Rail in the upper center (but on the near side of the street) it appears to have both the Balloons AND the elongated diamond-shaped umbrellas. Was this typical? I don't see the umbrellas at any of the other 'Balloon' Brass Rails in this photo.

2) What are the small buildings in the lower right of this photo, just below the GE Building?

My guess would be restrooms, with the women in a long line wink.gif

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The buildings in the lower left is of Chunky Candy, the long low structure with all the windows was the cooling tunnel. They made candy bars here.

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I should have said lower center- directly below the GE Pavilion.

There is a circular building in the middle of a round plaza, with a couple of semi-circular buildings, one to the left, and one below. The one below has a very long line of people waiting to enter- thus the restroom guess.

Just to the right is a Greyhound vehicle sitting there.

Also I'm curious about those rows of things near the Greyhound vehicle, with people standing at positions, sort of like telephone booths. But I thought the WF telephone booths looked different than this- more like the 'egg' sitting in the middle of the street at left center.

These rows I'm talking about point out diagonally from the center circular building at this plaza at the bottom of the picture.

Each person looks like they have some kind of light fixture over their head.

Also, at the very far right of the photo it looks like some kind of band concert next to the pool of water under the big NYWF flagpole.

Lots of interesting stuff in overhead shots like this.

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Well, I was right about the women!

Apparently this was the Clairol Color Carousel (women only allowed in).

<a href="http://peace.expoarchive.com/6465/industrial/indpav08.shtml" target="_blank">http://peace.expoarchive.com/6465/industri.../indpav08.shtml</a>

And those things to the right of the Color Carousel that I thought looked sort of like phone booths must be the hair color devices which were said to be on the Carousel's steps.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by c318137:

1) At the Brass Rail in the upper center (but on the near side of the street) it appears to have both the Balloons AND the elongated diamond-shaped umbrellas. Was this typical? I don't see the umbrellas at any of the other 'Balloon' Brass Rails in this photo.<HR></blockquote>

There is a Brass Rail full service restaurant co-located there. I believe it was the Southern Fried Chicken location. (Pages 14 & 34 of your '64 Guidebook.)

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Last year we had been discussing the famous balloon-shaped Brass Rail restaurants. I had posted a picture I had found through eBay. Well, I now have the original slide and have scanned it myself and thought people might enjoy a cleaner version:

brass-rail-1.jpg

The old version is down below for comparison. I also have a closer view of the counter area:

brass-rail-2.jpg

The prices are really amazing given today's costs at a fair. Plus, I didn't realize Budweiser was considered a premium beer - 50 cents for a Bud vs 40 cents for a Schaefer.

Finally, if you wanted a more upscale experience, Brass Rail had other restaurants such as this one:

brass-rail-3.jpg

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If the Brass Rail didn't satisfy you there were other options - and their beer, Schlitz, was only a quarter!

steak-town.jpg

Off to the right is a sign for "World's Fair Belgian Waffles" - I imagine the Bel-Gem Waffle folks would have found that a tad irritating.

[This message has been edited by billcotter (edited 10-01-2003).]

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I have never seen this picture before. What a tacky place, it looks like a small supermarket. Where was it located at the fair?

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That was originally The Century Grill in 1964. It was located in the Transportation Area between the Eastern Air Lines building and Ford; behind the Hall of Science.

Century Grill must've folded up between seasons and the building became "Steak Town" in '65. Mike Krause also has a picture of this on his photos site and the lawn is littered with garbage. It REALLY looks tacky!

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Mike's wonderful photo of Steak Town USA!, from his superb collection of WF images.

T16P47.jpg

This architectual masterpiece was constructed over the historic 1939 Budd stainless-steel shelters seen in the pre-fair photos below. frown.gif

ford_disks.jpg

Say, if you haven't seen Mike's web site yet, you haven't seen the fair!

http://www.nywf64photos.com/Personal/ImageIndex.htm

Randy.

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Remember... we were, just then, first getting barraged with Lady Bird's "Litter Bug" campaign.

Up until that campaign, people thought nothing of tossing their Dairy Queen napkin or empty cigarette pack out the window of the car.

That was the very begining of political correctness and environmental awareness.

The soon-to-be-popular word "Ecology" wasn't even in common use yet.

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quote:


Originally posted by DougSeed:

Up until that campaign, people thought nothing of tossing their Dairy Queen napkin or empty cigarette pack out the window of the car.

That was the very begining of political correctness and environmental awareness.


After living a couple of decades in California (the spawning ground for both environmental awareness and political correctness- both of which I hate, but...well, it wears on ya I guess) I visited the folks at their retirement locale in the western North Carolina mountains and was shocked to observe that my dad liked eating apples while driving his pickup, and always tossed the core out the window when he was done! In L.A. the core would probably hit another car in the next lane, and THAT driver would open up on you with a rapid fire semi-automatic handgun!!!

Of course dad probably thought tossin' the old apple core is nothin' compared to other folks in his part of the country (sorry Bradd!) who toss beer bottles & cans out their window. (I ran college track in Alabama in the 70's and had numerous near misses while on long training runs along the side of local two-lane highways- rednecks intentionally aiming their bottles at teammates and I while we were out training))

What's surprising is not really my dad, but MY reaction to observing it! biggrin.gif Like I said, even if I'm not a tree-hugger or a PC'er, you go for a long time in a certain kind of environment and then when get thrown back in the "old" environment it's kind of surprising! biggrin.gif

What bugs me the most these days is seeing smokers all the time flicking their butts out the car window onto the street or paved median, which are usually filthy with cigarette butts. That's what car ashtrays are for! I've blown my horn at them more than once- I'm sure they don't have a CLUE what the blown horn is about- and I'm probably risking one of those Uzi spray of bullets retaliations!

But...it's MY tax dollars paying for street cleanup!! We need chain gains of guilty smokers cleanin' up the highways as a sentence for their crimes.

Okay, off the soap box biggrin.gif

Gotta pick up dad when his apple-core-tossin' chain gain sentence is up...

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So the Brass Rails were owned by Interstate United Corp? Anyone know anything abou them?

I see a collection of their annual reports is at Purdue:

<a href="http://gemini.lib.purdue.edu/arsweball/company.cfm?ID=3121" target="_blank">http://gemini.lib.purdue.edu/arsweball/company.cfm?ID=3121</a>

I wonder if they say much about the Fair in them.

Evidently the company is no longer around - found this as well:

merged with Canteen Co., a sub. of TW Services, Inc

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I think I've heard of Canteen Corp.

I think they were on contract to run the campus food establishments (cafeteria, snack bars, etc.) at the university I attended in the 70's. I didn't see any big balloons around campus though!

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