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Mike two of three, yes there is a wood dome it's the original roof of the theater sitting under the new structure.

The error is in the photo… what happened to the towers. They're gone. The photo was flipped.

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Krinklglas, I asked them for a sample. <a href="http://www.krinklglas.com/images/abig.gif" target="_blank">http://www.krinklglas.com/images/abig.gif</a>

Powerpot II, no sample requested. <a href="http://www.24th-century.com/lapiere/product.php3?func=productinfo&item=9" target="_blank">http://www.24th-century.com/lapiere/produc...ductinfo&item=9</a>

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I wonder where the Powerpot was exhibited? It might be something you'd find in an American Interior. And it certainly contributes to Better Living. I've heard that the Pavilion of Paris actually featured some pretty non-French products. Maybe this was exhibited on the Rue de Merde? With the Saturn V blasting off in the background, you know this device is Space Age.

At any rate, it sounds like a flush at the wrong time could have sucked you into a trip to the Moon and Beyond. Water flowing at that force could propel a log boat down a flume!

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Bill I think we have been had. I checked both Official Guides and couldn't find anything on this company. If you read the text at this site, you will see that it all tong-in-cheek.

I finally found this on the site, "Legal Stuff, Images for this page have been collected from a variety of different sites. Many are copyrighted by their respective owners. This page is a nonprofit educational effort, with no actual underlying commercial activity."

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Just go to the "about us" section and it clearly states that the site is an attempt (keyword attempt) at being humorous. The page about the company being located at the former world financial center is anything but funny!

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I don't know about that ... have you ever taken a cruise? We were on the Sensation in 1994 and I'm sure the toilets on that ship were PowerpotIIs. There was enough suction involved that I would not allow small children in the room when when was in use.

And that business about not sitting on them whilst flushing. Well I also read somewhere that it took the Maintenance Dept. hours to extracate someone from the seat of one of those cruise ship toilets after someone flushed while sitting. It's one of the hazzards of taking a Caribbean Cruise that your travel agent isn't willing to discuss! biggrin.gif

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A Dim View of the Fair

Its putative theme was "Peace through Understanding" but relatively few nations participated. The actual theme was corporate America moving into the New Frontier of Space. <a href="http://www.umeedu.maine.edu/coehd/reflection/space_age_reflections.html" target="_blank">http://www.umeedu.maine.edu/coehd/reflecti...eflections.html</a>

A Strange Sighting at the Fairgrounds

In 1972, one of the people in attendance at a Marian apparition in Bayside, New York, USA took Polaroid photographs of strange lights in the night sky over the old Vatican pavilion at the former site of the 1964 New York World's Fair. When the Polaroid photo developed, it showed a name written in light, Jacinta, in the girl's own handwriting. <a href="http://ufoinfo.com/roundup/v05/rnd05_10.shtml" target="_blank">http://ufoinfo.com/roundup/v05/rnd05_10.shtml</a>

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Re: A Dim View of the Fair

Is there a word for this kind of Prozac-induced thinking? What is that word?

Do all these people write for magazines?

If I had to read this tripe every day, I'd blow my brains out!!

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Hey Mike,

at the very least, the guy qualifies as a world class PARTY POOPER!

Was that the word you were looking for?

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The author was/is a bit too self-indulgent. The Fair was created and visited in small pieces, each with its own quality. Mr. Rafferty is commenting about a place- the World's Fair as one thing- that no one actually experienced, a little like looking down on North America from space and saying it is good or not good without ever touching or really seeing any one part of the ground.

At the same moment, one person was viewing the Pieta, another was eating an exotic Indian food for the first time, a third was getting off on death-defying stunt drivers, someone else was absorbing the culture of Spain, another was trying to figure out what country the pretty girl in front of them was from while waiting in line to see Futurama, a sixth was learning something about computers at IBM and thousands of others were doing things we can only guess about. That's what made it important, and that's what we remember and even if we have to imagine much or for some, all of it, that is closer to the soul of it than critiques like that of Mr. Rafferty.

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"Like once during the New York World's Fair, I got off one that the Moroccan Pavilion had a belly dancer, but the Fair's business was so bad she had a cobweb in her navel".

Johnny Carson in a 1967 Playboy interview, not funny, not accurate. As we know, the Moroccan Pavilion was rarely in need of customers.

This never happened, did it?

The Queens Church of Christ of Flushing, New York is sponsoring a $400,000.00 exhibition in the 1964-1965 New York World's Fair. Among exhibits will be an electronic brain computer. Visitors can choose a question, push a button and get a Bible answer! I wonder if I could get a Bible answer to the following question: Where is the authority for sponsoring church arrangements? Where does the Bible authorize many churches sending funds to one church for a work larger than the receiving church's local needs? Perhaps the machine can do a better job than liberal brethren have in producing book, chapter, and verse for the sponsoring church arrangements.

--Win. E. Wallace

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I don't know ... I think you guys are being too harsh on that author of the New Utopians piece. I think much of what he said is pretty accurate when it comes to the Fair. I do think the Fair was about drumming up business for New York. Despite it's lofty themes, the people who thought it up and backed it expected a mighty big return on investment -- whether it be interest on loans or increased business at Gimbels. His statement that the Fair banked on a sense of unlimited potential for America generated by our technological supremacy and The space references seem quaintly naïve now rather than visionary. Reality caught up with these dreams of utopia. are well put. We laugh at the thought of moon bases and an Antarctic Weather Central but we realize that our vision then was unfettered by the conscious that we have after 40 years of seeing the dark side of unchecked technology and the price tag for Space Exploration that the taxpayer is no longer willing to pay.

I think his whole reference to the Fair is pretty accurate, actually. He doesn't say anthing about the good side of the Fair -- but none of the good things about the Fair contribute to the point he was using the Fair to try to make.

At the risk of being branded a traitor, I kind of liked the article. Things like this are what make the Fair so interesting to me. On one hand the Fair was this -- on the other hand the Fair was that! It is a neat part of history complete with ideals, battles, intrigue, culture, rampant capitalism, and bigger than life figures and, on the whole, a lot more fun to read about than World War I. biggrin.gif

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I gotta jump on the Carson comment. As Hood mentioned, this comment on the Morrocan Pavilion was extremely incorrect. Well at least for the 64 season that it is, when my father managed the restaurant/club part. The MP was a hot spot of choice for the club scene.

As far as Johnny Carson, this much I can tell you, my father did meet him at one of the restaurants he worked at while the Tonight Show was still being taped in NYC. Apparently Mr. Carson, aside from being obnoxious, was a cheap #@%&*$@ to boot!

The employees would tell my father that Johnny would leave tips that did not even total a dollar! This is in the finest restaurants NYC had to offer at the time!

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There is a lesson to be learned here…

"Instead of attending the New York World's Fair, Elva and I decided that we would spend the money on two new chandeliers for our living room ceilings. The globes for the old fixtures had long since been broken. We shopped at Jordan Marsh and found two Spanish chandeliers that we liked very well.

While we were waiting for their delivery, in order to save time, I would take down the old fixtures. This was a mistake: Apparently they had been converted from gaslight to electric many years before, and I found that the nuts would not move with an ordinary end wrench.

So, while standing on a stepladder, I used a monkey wrench, using much force. Climax: the wrench slipped, striking me on the forehead above the right eyebrow, resulting in emergency hospitalization and stitches."

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Appropriately, instead of visiting the World's Fair of the Space Age, he was victimized by the Gaslight Era.

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This is a very nice web site of the Expo58, it is quite thorough. Three things to look for, first check out the Infringement Notification the Unisphere has nothing like that. Next, look at the inside of the Atomium. Finally, take a tour of the pavilions especially the Civil Engineering Pavilion.

<a href="http://www.atomium.be/" target="_blank">http://www.atomium.be/</a>

Big Cheese nothing new… <a href="http://www.perth.igs.net/~bathurst/home/cheese.htm" target="_blank">http://www.perth.igs.net/~bathurst/home/cheese.htm</a>

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It's fortunate the Unisphere is not limited in such a way. If it were all these images in the mass media that have popularized it would probably not have happened and it would be an obscure object outside of Queens. I don't think gov't agencies have any business trying to trademark public buildings.

The Expo '58 website is a good one. The look and contents of that fair seem much more similar to the 1939-40 NYWF (the working Coca-Cola bottling plant, the Electric and Water Power exhibit, etc.)than 1964-1965. Also it provides a look into Europe of the late '50s- there was one pavilion dedicated to explaining the benefits of pasteurization and another the usefulness of detergents! The exhibit about the positive uses of explosives probably convinced few Europeans of that time and the Socialist Party's pavilion must have really been a must-not-see even in those days.

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Hood,

That site was vey interesting. Boy I never thought chocolate would be sooo important in a fair. I think I counted four or five pavilions dedicated to this habit forming sweet.

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Atomsville USA <a href="http://www.orau.org/history/chronology/1965.htm" target="_blank">http://www.orau.org/history/chronology/1965.htm</a>

Was it in the Better Living Pavilion or Hall of Education?

The Peace Corps Subcommittee of the ALA International Relations Committee (American Library Association) was behind the Dial-A-Book project at the Fair. There you could dial-up and listen to one-minute tapes of book reviews.

Another Fair Mystery

Felix Schmerz created a department store of tomorrow, which was exhibited at the Fair. Anyone?

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I remember Atomsville USA as being perhaps he key attraction at the post-Fair Hall of Sci. I think it remained in place until the mid-70s. The Hall of Science renovated and started removing the Fair era exhibits. By that point "atomic energy" had become "nuclear power" and was becoming politically incorrect so.....

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