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OMG OMG OMG!!! I got in!!! 18 pics!

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First off, OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! *slaps self*

I was looking inside through the bars, when a lady approached me:

lady: Can I help you with something?

me: Oh, I'm just looking. I'm obsessed with the World's Fairs

lady: (she notices my camera around my neck) Oh. Are you with the other photography student? I'm looking for her, I got permission for her, her mom and grandma to walk in and take some pictures, escorted by me.

me: *looks around* I don't see them, but is it okay if I come too

lady: sure

me: OMG OMG OMG Thank you so much!!

I just wanted to share with you folks! I almost cried too!

I've gotta transfer pictures, edit and upload, but I will post 'em!! Patience friends!

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Did you take a picture of the nice lady, so we all know who to look for?

No, because she was also a b****, and said this was the first time she even walked in.

Though, I did tell the other photographer (who later joined us) about our site. She said she'd love to go on our walks in the park.

Currently resizing images. I took about 50 LOL

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It was so awesome to have a different view!

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Most looks like this

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Some are like this. I guess they are saving and restoring? Thoughts please!

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There was a guy playing drums in here. I didn't ask.

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I almost cried at this

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what's this from? Anyone?

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Texaco!

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What's the story with the Jimi Hendrix photo peering out from the open door? Is that a relic from the post fair concert days??

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Some are like this. I guess they are saving and restoring? Thoughts please!

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This is the one that really blows my mind! Those covered slabs are the restored terazzo, done by the University of Pensylvania! you can make out the images underneath the covers, it looks just like brand new slabs as they were being delivered back in 1963 for assembly! Awesome!

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Okay, who can identify the location on the map of this restored slab?

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I'm shocked how different the pavillion looks from my visit in April of this year. If you compare the second picture looking across the map to the one I took (See my previous post from late April) I was amazed to see all the weeds growing that were not there 4 months ago. Steve

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My input:

1. Most of the weeds grow ON the surface of the map... not up through the map. Dirt and dust swirl in the wind in that giant oval and tiny seeds take root in the dirt that piles up here and there. That's why they're able to clean up the surface on the rare occasions that they do. I have kicked away several clumps of weeds on the map. They can be stubborn and cling pretty tightly, but if you scrape with your heel or the side of the sole of the shoe, most of those weeds will let go.

2. The blue and yellow tile are not from the fair. They are probably from theater sets being moved or disposed of.

3. WOW! Those restored sections are exciting, although I can't believe that they're just leaving them sitting around in the otherwise horrific environment. Sure wish we could see one!

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Thanks for sharing the photos. I hope I can get in during my next visit there.

I agree with Doug though. Why would you just leave the restored panels there? I would like to see them in the museum so they are protected.

Thanks again for the pics.

AL

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Firstly, allow me to apologize for the "nice lady's" bitchiness. We're in the middle of our annual Latino Cultural Arts Festival here at the theatre, and she had been assigned to escort some student photographers thru the Pavilion on top of the gadzillion other things she needed to do that day. She's really a nice person on a normal day.

As Doug pointed out, those tiles aren't part of the Pavilion, they're from an old piece of scenery that fell apart while we were moving it.

Interesting point about the Hendrix poster, I'll ask around and see if it's origional, or if one of our employees put it up.

The slabs that are sitting there covered aren't going to be there much longer. As far as I know they're going to be moved to the museum shortly. Someone else from these boards stopped by today, I think she took some pictures of the restored slabs.

Randy: You have a PM.

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You would think in the least the Parks Department could throw some weed killer around in there. So damn pathetic.

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Thank you for all the great pictures. Specially thanks to QTIPpm for being part of the PTU and watching after the structure, and taking care of those that have a historical or personal connection to the fair.

So far all that was said on the posts are true (weeds growing on top vs. underneath, restoration of a few of the floor tiles, broken cermaic tiles not part of the building etc.). The Hendrix poster was not there during or after the fair; most likely added within the last 15 years. Those doors were painted blue, not black; further most of the doors that you see were added in 1967 post fair. But, do you know that Hendrix's manager and director, actually was an accomplished skater and skated an exhibition their (Roller Round) in 1972?! He really was great like his artist and highly respected.

I hope that those of you have responded to Susan Singh and her role in the Queens Museums' upcoming feature on the paviion as well. She could use your help and has reached out to some of you a few weeks back.

By the way, Parks never did respond to our recent letter and financial prospective. Their loss, yes, but also our future generations, too. From what I am seeing and reading, most are not happy with the WMF effort to save the pavilion.

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Before somebody pointed out that those are some restored panels under the plastic, I was looking at the CLOSEUP CLOSEUP views of some of the terrazo (like around the Texaco stars), and thinking 'you know, that looks like it could be repaired, then recoated with a surface protectant- I'll bet they could even fill those cracks with something that would be almost unnoticeable'.

All it would take would be time, patience, some crack filler stuff (goop, etc.), toothbrushes to clean the surface with, and money to pay people who are only patient to the extent this project requires when money is involved. Volunteers could do it, if trained and sufficiently supervised. There are some sections of course, which may be beyond repair.

Once repaired, all it takes to keep weeds from growing is sweeping the place out once a week. And it wouldn't hurt to cover it with a tarp in the winter time.

Now those separation cracks in the concrete block walls of the mezzanine- that's a different story.

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You would think in the least the Parks Department could throw some weed killer around in there. So damn pathetic.

We have a screeened-in, cement-floored room/porch at the back of our house that the wind swirls in, just like the NYS pavilion. No matter how many times we sweep the cement floor clean, it gathers an amazing amount of dirt... in swirled piles just like NYS. Fortunately, we don't get the weeds!

I can understand why nobody bothers to keep a weed-control vigil at NYS. It's a never-ending battle... and that floor is nearly the size of a football field. I'm actually surprised that it isn't WORSE! They actually DO clean that floor off occasionally.

By the way, welcome to PTU and thank you for posting those excellent photos!

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I can understand why nobody bothers to keep a weed-control vigil at NYS. It's a never-ending battle... and that floor is nearly the size of a football field. I'm actually surprised that it isn't WORSE! They actually DO clean that floor off occasionally.

By the way, welcome to PTU and thank you for posting those excellent photos!

I'm sure if it was allowed, just from this forum, we could gather folks to weed and take care of the floor bi-weekly! I know I'd be there constantly!

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Great story Cecelia! You must have been so excited. Thank you so much for sharing your photos with us. It seems to be such a rare thing for someone to be able to get inside the pavilion without running the risk of being arrested. You are very lucky, and apparently have great timing!

You know, it's strange to think that this building is "only" 40+ years-old. With all the mysteries about it and all the efforts being mounted to try to save it (and the inevitable frustration of realizing that it might be beyond saving at this point), you'd think we were talking about ancient Roman ruins or something. As has been mentioned about this pavilion many, many times...it's sad.

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Great once in a lifetime pictures, Cecelia! I'm thoroughly impressed and totally jealous! I don't know if this question has ever been asked here, but does anyone know why the pavillion was spared from the wrecking ball when the fair closed?

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