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Hey Flatlander, do you need some Greyhound garb. Check these out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3633817771&category=4169

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3633817323&category=4169

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2199896109&category=4151

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Boys and Girls, today our keep-you-occupied travel game to keep from bugging your parents:

Count the Escorters!

I think I see five in the foreground alone.

Good luck with the parking lot! (I think this may be the same service lot in Mike's photo shown earlier in this thread)

Escort.jpg

from a Bill Cotter photo

Randy

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Yes, same lot - that's the Socony Mobil building in front of the lot.

Given the number of Escorters parked there it would seem they were not all that popular. Anyone here (besides Larry) ever ride one?

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Anyone here (besides Larry) ever ride one?

At $9.00 an hour (in mid-60's dollars), it seems like it was pretty elitist.

What was a Manhattan taxi fare at that time?

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There's a lot of Escorters in that picture. Kind of makes one wonder what happened to all of them.

If passengers paid by the hour, or partial hour, then that thing to the right of the right canopy strut had to have been some kind of taxi type time meter.

Randy (c318137). Is there any way that you could zoom in on that orange card with the red circle in the photo that you posted on 10/28 as to make it readable ?

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I presume you mean the Escorter that was in this photo. As you can see it was already cropped and enlarged.

Escorter6.jpg

However, I'll take a shot at it anyway. It looks like a blue circle, not a red circle. I'm afraid this is the best I can do with the scan resolution. This photo is from a CD that is being sold by a company that has the original professionally-shot Wolfe negatives. This one was Wolfe slide 79040.

Escorter7.jpg

Randy

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Flatlander if you look at the side-view picture earlier in this thread, it looks like this 'metal flag thing' may fold down into the dashboard- there seems to be an open slot for it.

That is very consistent with taxi meters of that era- look at the detail pictures of this one that's for sale on eBay right now, that show how the 'flag' rotated up and down:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2202518260&category=4151

Escorters may not have used this same Rockwell Mfg model, but the technology looks to be much the same.

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Randy...Thanks for trying on the photo.

I have been watching e-Bay closely and have seen several different types of manual taxi meters. The Rockwell looks to be the closest to what the earlier photo showed if the flag were rotated. It also looks like it might fit, with a little modification.

The restoration is progressing slowly. Still looking for a horn...

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I've been looking without success for a picture showing the position of that flag when there weren't any passengers on board.

I did find another one WITH passengers and the flag in the same position as in these photos. Quality of the photo is about the same- let me know if you want it and I'll e-mail it.

Email me

However, take a look at that picture earlier in this thread of the Escorter in front of the Hong Kong Pavilion.

No passengers on board.

Unfortunately the driver is blocking the view of the meter area- you can barely see the 'arm' of the flag next to the driver's right arm.

But there's something interesting on the dashboard right underneath this 'flag'.

It looks like a rectangular panel.

Could this be the meter 'odometer-type' clock /$$$ display?

Does your Escorter have a rectangular hole at this position on the dashboard?

Also, perhaps we should be cautious about any conclusions about flag position when no passengers are on board. The pictures of 'customers' riding these things are full of women in full mink coats, with the men in tailored suits with overcoats (and always hats of course). In other words, we're talkin' money here. And there are several like this Hong Kong photo and in front of the General Electric Pavilion, where it looks like the driver is sitting there waiting. It may be that the customer is willing to let the meter continue to run while they're inside the Pavilion, and the driver is being paid to sit there and wait for them. In that case I'd presume that the driver would leave the flag in the 'occupied' position to indicate that the meter is running and he's not 'available for hire'. Much like automobile taxis.

Randy

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Randy...There is no opening in the fiberglass at that position. I believe what you are seeing is the manufacturer's metal plaque that lists the vehicle's serial and engine number. I can see it placed at different locations in different pictures. Mine is located directly behind the steering column.

I also suspect that the orange card on the flag contained information about rates.

E-mail on the way.

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You have a keen eye Dougie- we can even make out the outline of the small-case "r" in the middle of the circle. The r may be blue instead of red like the eBay unit- it's hard to tell.

Using the eBay meter photo as a model you could make yourself a decal Flatlander!

Randy

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An interesting small detail...

On the Escorter closeup, the Rockwell Mfg. logo is "right-side-up" when the flag is in, what I would consider, the "in use" position.

A positive attitude on their part, I must say!

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Bill Cotter rote:

"...Escorters...Anyone here (besides Larry) ever ride one?"

Nope, I never rode in one of those annoying, quacking (their horns all quacked the Greyhound ditty until they all got stuck in the on position after a big rain and then they replaced them with a regular honking horn) little things!

Larry

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I'm still hoping that someone will have a clearer picture of the gauge in the photo above. It is the only remaining component that was missing from the Escorter that I've yet to positively identify....besides the "Mystery Bracket"

This bracket was located on the firewall, just below the unidentified gauge. I've just about decided that it must have held the musical horn speaker, because there appears to be no other attachment point for the speaker. But, without a photo to confirm, it's still only a guess.

Any other ideas on what this bracket might have held? If it was a speaker, any ideas on what kind of speaker it could have been?

Mystery%20Bracket.jpg

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It sure doesn't look like a speaker bracket. At first glance the 'top' and bottom connector things look electrical, but at closer look it appears they're just part of the metal of the overall bracket, with a rubber pad attached. Which doesn't bode well for anything electrical.

Then I tried to think what they would mount under the dashboard on the firewall.

A fire extinguisher popped into my head right away.

But six inches long? That would only put out pipsqueek fires, or a customer smoking an out-of-control cigar.

How about a flashlight? These Escorters ran after dark, and if one broke down (or something like a customer's car keys fell out of his pocket into the floorboard of the passenger compartment), the driver might want to grab a flashlight.

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This view doesn't reveal anything definitive, but it looks like instead of being a gauge, there is something sticking out of this 'hole'.

Escorter_for_hire.jpg

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The configuration of the bracket indicates that whatever it held would have springy pins, or would be springy itself.

Also, notice the word TOP stamped into the bracket. Orientation was apparently important.

I'm stumped...

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Does anyone have a photo that clearly shows this Escorter gauge ?

Philip,

Could that have been the speedometer, or tachometer?

What size hole? 3-3/8" or 5"?

It looks like the opening is for a Stewart-Warner device. They

were used as standard instruments on lots of small vendor

equipment.

Link to Stewart-Warner Catalog

SWdlux1.jpg

What other gauges have you identified?

I restored a Miniature Train Company locomotive for our park train group and the S-W gauges were a perfect match. I bet they haven't changed in 70 years.

Randy.

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