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Lithuanian Wayside Shrine

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In the first photo I wonder what 'Self Art' was all about on that building in the background? Spin Art perhaps?

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I sent the link to some Lithuanian people I know.

There was so much at the Fair that I never knew about - despite being there most of the days of its existence

LL

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On my first visit to the park since 1964 (2002 with Hoodlock), we walked by the former site of the shrine. Now surrounded by trees, the concrete base is still visible, although it's very battered and half buried in the landscape. I too never saw the cross while at the fair.

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It's interesting that the NYWF Corporation left that base behind. Was the shrine intended to be left when the Fair closed, and if so, when did it disappear? If not, why wouldn't thay have taken out the base - an easy task compared to what they did take out?

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I think the whole shrine was still there in the 70s.

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Apparently you weren't seeing things Chairman.

The story on the back of this Rededication Program is interesting- especially the bit about the Lithuanians acquiring the 'Pieta cage' and using it to store the shrine until it could be rededicated in 1967.

But obviously this 1967 program doesn't answer the question about what happened to it later, and does it still exist somewhere today?

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I had seen this photo before and didn't think it was the same shrine, so yesterday I sent an e-mail to a fellow who maintains a web site for Lithuanian community activities in the New York City area.

I just got back an e-mail response-

Hello, Randy -

That's an excellent question. I used to ride my bike past the shrine in the

early 80's; I don't recall when I noticed that it wasn't there any more.

I know a lot of people in the Lithuanian community here in New York and I'll

ask around about the shrine (possibly this weekend). I'm familiar with the

shrine near the Transfiguration Church; I don't think it's the same one, but

I'll try to find out.

All the best,

Ray Slizys

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The shrine in Maspeth is not the Fair shrine, as we hashed out a couple of years ago on the board.

A search might turn up the thread.

Sure hope that gentleman can tell us what happened to the Fair shrine though.

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I vaguely remember reading about it being vandalized to the point that it either fell over or was removed. I do remember people carved their names all over it when it was still standing. If I can this weekend I will look through my pictures of the park in the 70's.

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More from our Lithuanian correspondent:

Hello Randy -

I've asked around about the World's Fair wayside shrine, but I haven't found

anyone who knows its fate. I'll keep trying; over the next few weeks, I'll

be at gatherings with a lot of Lithuanian New Yorkers of the "DP" generation

who may be able to help.

In the meantime, I think I can pretty safely say that the shrine on the

property of the Transfiguration Church in Maspeth is not the same shrine as the

one at the World's Fair. There's a marker in front of the Maspeth shrine that

says it was erected on September 27, 1981 by the Knights of Lithuania

Council 110. There are a few similar design elements between the two shrines, but

also many differences. If you'd like any additional information on the

Maspeth shrine, I should be able to help you - my son attends the Lithuanian

school there every Saturday, so I have easy access to the shrine!

I've also attached two images of a postcard about the World's Fair shrine

that was issued in 1964; the back of the postcard has detailed information

about the people associated with the erection of the shrine.

I'll let you know what else I find out - somebody must know the answer to

this!

All the best,

Ray Slizys

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I noticed that the photo that started this thread shows the same 'Self Art' location that was in the other PTU topic last week.

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What made anybody think that the shrine would be safe from vandalism in an unprotected park? If that old post is accurate and the thing was specially stored between closure of the fair and rededication of the shrine it was clearly a treasure to somebody. How could anyone think it was going to be safe following rededication? Nothng else in the park was safe.

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I was born in June 1964, but my parents took me to the fair in 1965. Of course, I don't remember anything about it, but when I was older, I loved driving from Nassau to Queens through Flushing Meadows Park with them to look at the remaining pavilions.

I saw the Lithuanian Wayside Shrine on a website for The Grotto located in Portland, OR: http://www.thegrotto.org/gardens/shrines/

http://www.hannahcreativephotography.com/Galleries/Places/The-Grotto/18411710_ckZpXS/1419477603_mJPBxT8#!i=1419477603&k=mJPBxT8

Is that the same one?

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