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About sunguar

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    All Things Involving the 64-65 World's Fair and long lost Freedomland

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  1. Thanks, people. I realize that interests change from time to time, but for someone to have such a vast knowledge of the Fair, and to be so involved in a community, and then, well, abandon it, puzzles me. One example, Hoodlock, who has something like 2336 posts, and who had a "What Happened This Week at the Fair" and a fascinating "Quiz of the Week" started posting in 2000 and stopped in 2015. I suppose it's my seeing "Coco" and the time being near the "Day of the Dead" that makes me wonder, and hope these names are never forgotten.
  2. …...and so few people.
  3. A better than average amateur shot of the Pieta

    I remember being on the moving conveyor and crab-walking to my right to stay in front of, and keep viewing the Pieta. I remember reading afterward there was a separate entrance where one could enter the Vatican Pavilion without the moving walkway. This was provided for photographers and others who wanted a longer look at this masterpiece. Am I correct?
  4. I've read all the posts listed under General Discussion (some 17,166 posts) under that heading and many, many more in other topics concerning the 1964-1965 World's Fair. Going back some 18 years (some pre-911) it provides a fascinating history of discoveries and events concerning the Fair. (Confession: I actually had to ask an older member what PTU actually meant. I should have been able to guess but---) Some of the posts are actually voices from people who are no longer with us, and I missed out on not being able to actually post on their topics of choice. Some are sadly missed. I wish I got to meet Ray Dasher (with his flag raising and days in the park on his Segway) and AMFMonorail (Randy Lambertus). So my question is this----What happened to some of the most prolific and knowledgeable posters here? So in no apparent order (except maybe contributions): Hoodlock (Bruce) ParkBench Rose YaddaYadda Mike Kraus Ken Thalheimer Marc Williams JMCSweeny RayinPasa Elizabeth Klug Mary Ellen (I know at some point Bill Young changed his forum name to nywf64.com) Thanks in advance to everyone who can help.
  5. With the narrow escalator they probably wanted everyone to "look around" without an obstructed view.
  6. One of my first thoughts on visiting this Pavilion was, "Couldn't they have made the escalator a little wider?" It almost seems that they wanted everyone in single file. Maybe that was the intention.
  7. The New York World's Fair pops notably up in modern media, such as Men in Black, Ironman 2, and Tomorrowland. But occasionally it pops up for a fragment of second as it did for me yesterday while watching, "Three Identical Strangers". It showed one of the triplets (actually quadruplets) with his family (in a home movie) in front of the Solar Fountain. You never know when the Fair will show up.
  8. Holiday wish

    Bill, was this the same model of the Unisphere that was at the Boy Scout's exhibit? You probably saw it more than anyone else.
  9. That's why I listed it at number 3 on my list. It seemed to me that cost was the least likely reason the picturephone did not take off. I remember reading of the introduction of television, where "affluent" people were buying sets even though there were only one or two broadcast stations in their area. Heck, even in my town, one of my neighbors (at about 11 miles away), bought a color television set when only Disney was broadcasting in color. I think the "affluent" people would have bought into the picturephone as one of their "toys", making it more of a success than it was, except for reason number one, but more likely reason number two.
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    Thanks for the link. Question: Exactly how big was the Boy Scout exhibit? There are three sizes listed in worldsfairphotos.com. attachments. 1 1/2 acres (per The Wonderful World of Scouting--1965), a little over 1/2 acre (26,851 sq ft) (per The Wonderful World of Scouting), and 1/2 acre (per The Christian Science Monitor). Was this a case of a bigger exhibit in the planning stages which later got reduced? From what I remember, it seemed to be about 1/2 acre.
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    Ralph, if you can easily put your hands on the photo, could you repost? I haven't seen many shots of the Boy Scout's exhibit, except for troop patches and merit badges. Being a scout myself, I remember being slightly underwhelmed by the Scout exhibit. I don't remember any drive in my troop for donations or anything like it to make a more impressionable showing at the World's Fair, and I know they didn't have the money to put on a bigger show. I do remember going to the exhibit, and shaking hands with most the scouts there, some from all over the country. That I was encouraged to do by my Scoutmaster before I left Massachusetts to go to the Fair. Fun times.
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    Is this the one that went over to the Boy Scout's exhibit at the Fair?
  13. Someone asked me a variant of this question a couple of days ago. They asked, " So what was it like being at the World's Fair as a 13 year old?" My reply-- "It was like being dropped on Mars"
  14. Interesting link. Thanks for posting. Reading the article it seems there were three reasons for failure of the picturephone in the 60's (and it wasn't the technology): 1) The person you were calling also had to have one. 2) All phone calls are an interruption. Not wanting someone else to see what you look like before you were interrupted. 3) Cost. I think 1 and 2 were more important, because people more affluent would be able to afford these "toys". The marketing was all wrong.
  15. One of the reasons I posted this is because of all the things that were shown at the Fair, the picturephone is often regarded and stigmatized as the greatest "failure" of the Fair, failing to live up to its promise. Maybe it now comes to fruition, 50+ years later. I'm sure when it was shown, AT&T would provide all the hardware, software, and connections to make it work. Unlike Skype (and today's phones), where you have to provide the hardware and connections for it to work. Maybe it was for the best, because when I think back to how Ma Bell used to charge us: Just to have a phone, whether used or not, I got a bill every month. If I wanted a phone in the bedroom, I had to pay extra (per month) If I wanted to call someone in a neighboring town (out of the zone), I had to pay extra. If I wanted to make a long distance call (to another area code), I had to pay extra. (I could save a little by calling after 9 pm.) These calls were charged by the minute. So I start to wonder, exactly how much would it have cost to have and to use a picturephone in 1965? Progress?