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  1. Hi, I havent been here in a while and was wondering if someone could update me. The last I heard, the new york state pavilion was the subject of a parks dept. study in 2010. They were going to study the towers and the wood pilings of the foundation. It was the second study they undertook. I have searched the internet and cant find anything about this study! What were the results of the study and what did they decide to do with this building? So far, I only found that it was landmarked by the state. Im hoping it will find a use, but somehow I doubt it.
  2. Does anyone know when construction is set to start on this: http://www.queensmuseum.org/exhibitions ... ansion.htm
  3. Im not sure if anyone posted this recent article in the NY Times regarding the NYS Pavilion. Its from a few days ago. Mr. Benepe continues to prove that he is a clueless individual without an ounce of common sense or character. While many other projects are being funded citywide, NYS Pavilion remains a low priority. I honestly think Parks Dept. is playing a very dangerous game. Its called The longer we wait and do nothing, the more it deteriorates thus the need to tear it down for safety reasons and be done with the hassle. Its either that kind of deliberate act or total incompetence. Or maybe its both? The story of NYS Pavilion in its 4th decade is truly a sad one. Ive been posting here for over 5 years now. At this point, Ive lost hope. Ive seen so many proposals come and go over the last 20 years. All of them either ignored or rejected by Parks without basis. I think it will probably meet the same fate as the Aquacade building, which was a more historically significant and important structure, but was demolished anyway. I just dont get any of this. Cant find a use for the structure? I can give you a dozen uses for it. It doesnt have to be elaborate or complicated, just something the average person can use such as a concert venue or a visitor center. What on earth do they think it was used for just after the fair. It served as a concert venue for top bands and as a highly successfull roller rink.It was maintained and owned by the parks department and run by concessionaires. It seems as though they want some private entity to take over the Pavilion, fund all the renovations and get things going. This will never happen. Parks needs to take the initiave, get it fixed and then either lease it out or run it themselves. Here's the article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/nyreg ... ref=slogin
  4. Hi All, I originally mentioned back in May that repairs were underway at the Heads Of State Monument. At last, I drove up to the monument this afternoon with my car and had another look. The repairs are complete. They have done a terrific job. It is totally readable again and it was done quite professionally. You can see the line/mark where it had been broken. However, it looks more like a stain/dirt at this point and will probably fade with the elements and/or a good cleaning. All together it took about 8 months to get it fixed, but its done now and in a good way. I wasnt sure if anyone mentioned all of this, so just thought I would pass it along.
  5. Well, I unfortunately could not get over there today, but will take a look next week. If they saved the broken piece, it can probably be repaired quite successfully.I agree about David Oates. He has been a champion for the park for decades now.The plan to move the monument was probably dismissed because of the renovation plans for the Queens Museum. They are planning a massive reconfiguration of some outdoor spaces in front near the unisphere. I think the renovations are set to begin in 2009.
  6. I will try to take another look if Im down there tomorrow and take photos. I think they had 2 or 3 guys working on it today. They also had a very large machine with them. One guy had a fine chisel and was poking at the monument.I have no idea how they intend to repair it. I came back an hour later and all the workmen were gone. They have wrapped a blue tarp very tightly around the monument. Its almost hugging the monument. They have also placed a couple of small black poles around the front of it, I guess in the case of little fender benders with cars. The poles have been there for a while now. They might be a good guard in small accidents but could never save the monument if another bus were to hit it. What they really need to do is relocate the monument. Its current location is totally ridiculous. It is simply too close to the roadway. I can tell you that people drive those park roads like absolute maniacs sometimes and accidents do happen. One slip which would normally land your car on a grassy flowery area will result in hitting the monument.Oates had a plan to move it over by the Unisphere, but like everything else it was totally ignored by Parks & Recreation. I will keep an eye on the situation and keep you guys posted. Its such an important monument, I really hope they do things the right way.
  7. I took a quick drive through the park today. They are finally fixing the Heads Of State Monument. As you may recall, it was badly damaged when it was struck by a bus during last years US Open. I watched the workmen as they spent alot of time working on it. It is currently tightly wrapped/covered with a blue tarp to protect it, as I guess this job will take a while to complete.
  8. I was scouring the internet and found an interesting article about NYC Parks & Recreation written about two years ago. It will give you some insight into how Parks & Recreation operates. Some parks are deemed more important than others and those "important"parks get all the attention. If you want to know why maintenance is so lacking at FMCP, read the article and it will give you a glimpse as to why. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/06/nyregion/06parks.html?ei=5088&en=14c5b08652b4a429&ex=1278302400&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/06/nyregion...;pagewanted=all</a>
  9. The REAL Flushing Meadows Corona Park

    I saw the Forgotten-ny page and I too was a bit troubled by the problems at FMCP. However, I also think many people are making way too much of this. Of course, FMCP has problems, its an urban park and all urban parks have some level of maintenance issues. This is just a fact of life. The images presented are disturbing, however they are also minor when you look at the park in its entirety. FMCP is a breath taking park with many fine features and amenities. The problems clearly should be fixed, but I think Forgotten-NY has done a disservice to the park by portraying it as a totally dreadful place in utter chaos.Its simply not true.Some would say that Central Park would never have such problems. This is true. However, Central Park also has something that FMCP does not. It has very wealthy conservancy groups providing toward its upkeep. They have been around a very long time and pour tons of money into the park from very wealthy contributors. Many of whom actually live on streets like 5th avenue and Central Park west, which border the park. FMCP doesnt have such luxuries. Unfortunately. In my opinion, even with all of its flaws FMCP is a better park than Central Park.Central Park doesnt have anything that comes close to the unisphere. Believe me, I have lodged many complaints over the years on these boards about FMCP conditions especially the NYS Pavilion. However, I think the Forgotten-ny piece was unnecessary and demeaning. Maybe it was intended to wake up the morons who run the park, but I doubt it will.
  10. Article

    Thanks for the link Al. Article after article, proposal after proposal, yet the Pavilion remains sitting, rusting, rotting and abandoned. No action whatsoever. I made a prediction six years ago on these forums that they will eventually tear it down and create more parking for the theater. I stated six years ago that the theater will be their primary focus. The millions upon millions they are pouring into its expansion proves that point. One point that is missed over and over. Public structures like the pavilion are suppossed to be maintained, regardless of whether they have a purpose or not. The Parks Department keeps stating that they cant find a "use" for the building as to somehow justify the lack of care and maintenance. They are not going to pour money into something that doesnt have a "use". Does the unisphere have a "use"? Do any of the various statues around the park have a "use"? Of course not, they are simply pretty and nice to look at and admire. Yet they are well maintained - for the most part.
  11. Article

    Im not sure, did anyone post this article yet? <a href="http://www.queenstribune.com/news/1174161087.html" target="_blank">http://www.queenstribune.com/news/1174161087.html</a>
  12. Here is a photo of the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center taken sometime in the 1990's. Look at how empty it looks around stadium. Almost all of this area has been filled in with parking lots, outdoor courts etc.
  13. Questions

    I remember someone mentioning a book called "World in a Park: The Amazing Saga of Flushing Meadows". Does anyone know if this book was ever published and if so where can I get a copy. My other question concerns the Worlds Fair Association/David Oats group. How does one join the group and make a financial contribution? Ive tried emailing them , but can not get a response. If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it.
  14. Flush boss out of park, sez group

    Future, I agree with you, the park has some safety issues. Patrols need to be increased, no doubt. Park officials have their heads in the sand and are not doing enough.The last crime wave scared the heck out of everyone. I was hoping they would learn a lesson from all of that and increase patrols on a regular basis, but that doesnt seem to be happening. However, I dont agree with you on cars being able to access the park. There is nothing wrong with vehicles driving around the park. The service road inside the park is there to provide essential access to on site parking lots at Queens Museum, Ice Rink, New ice rink, Tennis Center, Administration, Golf Parking, all of the lots under the Van Wyck as well as the lake area. As a person who drives in the park on a regular basis, you cant condemn all drivers for the actions of one nudnik. Drivers need to obey the speed limit, be cautious and pedestrians need to be careful as well. In addition, certain areas are off limits to drivers and should reamin so.
  15. Music Video

    By the way, if you search 1964 world's fair at youtube.com a slew of video clips will come up.