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  1. 4 points
    I recently joined or re-discovered a couple of the Facebook groups regarding the Fair so it was interesting to me to read the comments about Facebook. I was surprised to see how little has been posted on the Facebook groups in the past few years. On the other hand, this bulletin board is alive with continuous postings from people with an interest. I don't think a day goes by that I check here that I don't see and read something new. So LONG LIVE the World's Fair Community! In this day and age of Facebook, it is still THE PLACE to go for people who share a love of World's Fairs! You all make this a great place to visit.
  2. 3 points
    I love this community. Its members are passionate about world's fairs and the combined knowledge stored here is vast and deep. The passion is a double-edged sword and eventually it wore me out. Occasionally things got negative, heated. People disagree with the choices you make. Some people stop talking to you. Some people end up hating you. Over the years the hobby started feeling more like a job and my passion waned. I'd look through old posts and wonder if I'd made the right decisions. My social visits became less frequent. I'd check in to ensure everything was running and not recognize the people posting. That's when I decided to hand the site over to Bill C. Like many have previously stated, the community is still here and vital. Nearly two decades after Bill Y. invited me to join him. That's something to celebrate and be proud of!
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    After YEARS of delay, finally construction has started. Still don't know how much will get done and how fast, but the excellent and very much in demand "construction guy", Howie, is hot on it now and has done this much in two days, with the wood base cut and ready, but still not in place. However, the frame is almost complete. Most of the glass and plexi have to be replaced, but I am trying to figure out something to do with the original WF pieces of glass (only a few were not damaged in the taking down of the church/pavilion in Poway). We're waiting on the new glass and plexi, so that might be a short delay, as they are all custom pieces. Enjoy, news as it happens.
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    She is being remodeled! New glass fencing instead of grid on the observation deck and glass floor in the restaurant is just part of it. Here is a link to what they are doing to bring this lovely lady into the 21st Century! https://www.spaceneedle.com/about-renovation/ and a peek....
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    One man’s ceiling, another’s floor. Days like that meant I had Futurama on continuous loop and pwned the Chrysler quiz, walking away with multiple turbine car model prizes. No elbowing to see the SKF ball bearings bounce or for the driver’s seat in a Mustang. Although I do recall even at 7-8 years old, one day (Dad took me so it had to be a weekend) in particular in front of NCR, looking out at the empty space between the few people strolling by and grasping in my young mind the shaky feel of something being wrong with that picture. Desolate. I remember the same thing at Palisades, having the run of the Fun House on a beautiful day. Nice, but, Where is everybody? Like the foreboding cowboy remark, “Yeah. TOO quiet.”
  6. 2 points
    I just want to thank you again, Marc-- for funneling your passion into the original PTU-- for inviting me to be an Admin-- and for graciously allowing Bill to carry the site forward. I don't post as much as I used to, either. But man, oh man, am I glad the World's Fair Community is still around.
  7. 2 points
    Coming late this year, just in time for the Christmas holidays: "The 1939-1940 New York World’s Fair: The World of Tomorrow." Now all I need to do is write it.
  8. 2 points
    Good times and bum times, I've seen them all and, Sunguar, I'm still here.....since September 10, 2000!
  9. 2 points
    Facebook makes it hard to find anything more than a few days old. Never mind that they're continually tweaking what you see at all. I'd much rather visit a few different blogs and boards like this every day than trust Facebook for things I'm interested in.
  10. 2 points
    Hi suguar! I have a feeling a number of us have become "lurkers" more so than "posters." In my case, I still watch "the board" but just don't post often unless I have something to advertise that's new at nywf64.com The names you mention go "way back" to the early days when "PTU" as it was called then was a part of nywf64.com. "Way back" is going on 19 years ago! It's hard to believe that this bulletin board in one form or another has been around for that long! Some of the names you've mentioned I've lost track of as well. Others, like Mike Kraus, Liz Klug and Ken Thalheimer, Mary Ellen Coughlan, John McSweeny still have an interest in the Fair but just don't post here often any more. Interests change over 19 years too. I also think that part of the reason why you don't see some of the older names posting any more is that the "newness" of it might have worn off for some of them. You have to realize that 19 years ago, discovering that there were actually other people "out there" who share this interest was a big thing to us. All those years ago there just wasn't that much online that you could explore about the 1964/1965 New York World's Fair or other Fairs. Now, search Google for "1964 York Fair" and you will come up with a myriad of links to places to visit on the web that have a connection to the Fairs, be it UTube or any number of places where folks have posted their photos and memories. In 2000, PTU was actually a bit like a social club where people with a fascination for World's Fairs could "hang-out." It's still that way today but maybe just not as shiny and new as it was nearly two decades ago.
  11. 2 points
    I found a nice surprise at the front door today - the first copies of my newest book! It's always a thrill to finally hold the final product in your hands after months of work. Street date is December 10.
  12. 2 points
    Another celebrity sighting in a NYWF photo. "The blonde in this photograph is civil rights pioneer Edie Windsor. I just got an email back from one of her friends confirming it. Edie was an IBM executive. Edie was at the fair a lot. The woman feeding the giraffe is her wife Thea." Google turns some interesting stories about both women.
  13. 2 points
    Alan Abel, a resident of Connecticut and a life long "professional hoaxer," died on Friday. I mention this under general discussion because, in 1964, he and his wife, Jeanne , co-authored a book, The President I Almost Was, supposedly written by Mrs. Yetta Bronstein who ran an independent presidential campaign that year. Yetta formed her own political party (The Best Party) and used the slogan, "Vote For Yetta And Things Will Get Betta." They even handed out campaign materials in front of the White House and many, including members of the press, believed the campaign was real. Mr. Abel, in 1959, also created a bogus campaign known as SINA (Society for Indecency to Naked Animals) and, in 1963, demanded that Mrs. Kennedy, then First Lady, clothe her naked horses especially when riding in the Virginia countryside. Many news organizations, including the NY Times covered his 1963 protest outside of the White House. He proposed clothing any animal that stood taller than four inches and longer than six inches and the press fell for it. I mention all of this because Mr. Abel's hilarious and fictitious account of the 1964 presidential campaign has a chapter devoted to Yetta's campaign swing through the 1964 NY World's Fair. She focuses on her aching feet, the crowds and fair food. Not much is said about the issues of the day because, of course, the whole thing was a hoax. Mr. Abel also has the unique distinction of tricking the NY Times into writing an obituary for him in 1980. Mr. Abel got his family and friends in on the hoax and he went into hiding for several weeks and the Times reported his death of a heart attack with the headline: Alan Abel, Satirist Created Campaign To Clothe Animals. This time, following his death on Friday of this week, the Times did full research to be certain Mr. Abel was, indeed, dead. The Times notes that Mr. Abel "apparently did die" at his Connecticut home on Friday. That bogus obituary, written in full faith in 1980, prompted the Times to print the only retraction for such a fake obituary in its long history. Today's accurate obit calls Mr. Abel "an American original" much like P.T. Barnum. In a crazy world that seems to become nuttier each day, Mr. Abel was a remarkable character who brought humor and joy. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/obituaries/alan-abel-dies.html
  14. 2 points
    A little detective work produced this: On January 21, 2014 Bill Cotter posted: "Someone has finally found one of the Hertz strollers used at the Fair. It will be on "American Pickers" on the History Channel at 9 PM ET on January 22. I'm looking forward to seeing it. It's been tough sitting on the news until the show was ready to air." So that would be episode 3, Season 11. (Vermont, New York) Now to find it. (It's available on the History Channel website---stroller starts at 7:11) Gee, I would have bought it for $40.00
  15. 2 points
    An interesting find about the proposed 1996 Budapest World's Fair. The site was to have been divided between the Buda side of the Danube River and Margitsziget (Margaret's Island). Initial plans called for a joint exhibition in Vienna and Budapest in 1995. When Vienna lost interest, it was rescheduled for 1996 to celebrate the 1,100th anniversary of the founding of the Hungarian state. Sadly, it was never held.
  16. 2 points
    NYWF was probably the first place I saw moving walkways. A moving INCLINE must’ve been a real treat for my young self! Like kids having more fun w the boxes Christmas presents come in, some of the most fascinating aspects of NYWF were not the featured exhibits and displays, but the buildings they came in and the logistics and conveyances surrounding them.
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    The Tower of the Four Winds, May 1964
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    Another restored large-format slide.
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    That's an amazing shot. The Austria pavilion really stands out in the distance. My mother loved that building. She was Austrian. I remember, on our last night at the Fair, we exited the Churchill Pavilion and slowly walked toward Gotham Plaza and then the trains. I remember playing with the turnstile and turning it several extra times. If I close my eyes, I can still see the night time colors of the Fair and the Unisphere glowing in the distance. I was so sorry to leave and knew I'd never see anything quite like that place ever again. World of Food. It sounds like a supermarket chain.
  25. 2 points
    Just restored from a vintage print.
  26. 2 points
    The Trylon looks a bit worse for wear in this shot from 1939. The gypsum surface proved to be problematical throughout both years of the Fair. From an original negative just restored.
  27. 2 points
    The 1939-40 NYWF is memorable for many reasons, but its design and adherence to theme may be its greatest achievement. The geometry of design was everywhere. The photograph is wonderful. The Federal Building was enormous. The "American Common" is visible--where the USSR pavilion stood. In the distance the 1939 Maritime pavilion somehow looks forlorn. I don't believe the building was used in 1940 although I am open to correction on this. Wow, I just hit 5,000 posts. Did I mention I truly enjoy and respect this web site and its members?
  28. 2 points
    Ever wonder what a luminaire looked like if you stared straight up at one? Wonder no more.
  29. 2 points
    They were special flat panel fluorescent bulbs having a serpentine tube built in. Their use didn't last many years beyond the Fair, as the manufacturing process did not produce a good seal and they suffered early failure compared to regular cylindrical bulbs. The construction was such that the serpentine could not be seen in the bottom surface, but of course it became visible when they were lit. They also did a little trick with deluxe phosphors on the bottom and ordinary cool white on the top. GE Panel F square fluorescent lamp.pdf
  30. 2 points
    Of course they never admitted what *really* made the holes.
  31. 2 points
    I found them on eBay and decided I really didn't need to buy groceries for a few weeks...
  32. 1 point
    Mike, I noticed the family phone booth in that photo too, and it brought back such fond memories. On my very first visit to the Fair (the first Saturday, would have to have been April 25, 1964, right?) I was with a friend and his family, and before we visited our first pavilion we stopped at one of the booths to call my Mom. What a magical experience!! I remember telling my mother that all four of us could hear her...and she didn't believe me until we all started talking. Even the decor was futuristic (the built-in bench and the console that sort of 'hovered' in front of you....). It would be so neat to have those things around today...except I suppose the maintenance would be prohibitive, and homeless people would wind up living in them. Well, I have seen the future, and it's not quite what the Bell System and General Motors had in mind...
  33. 1 point
    Yes, Facebook is a big factor for sure. I want to keep this site going, though, as I feel the quality of posts is better. It's also easier to find older information at least for me.
  34. 1 point
    Very nice shots.Strange how Russia would be invited and within a short time be at war with Japan.
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    I get it. I see why C is the iconic cover. Every 1939 NYWf book I own, and there are a number of them, uses the theme center on the cover. It's expected. But there is something absolutely wonderful about E. Those two are members of the greatest generation. Look at the sheer enjoyment on their faces as the Parachute Ride comes to an end. Their faces radiate everything I have ever read or heard the Fair was all about--joy, hope, enthusiasm, wonder. Your book has many excellent theme center photographs. Photo E captures something more important. Those two are a part of the 45 million who loved that Fair, never forgot it and told stories for the rest of their lives. The Fair was all about them. I hope you'll consider E.
  37. 1 point
    Is there a topic on the board of audio recordings of attractions/music/walking around at the Fair? Digitized tapes of the fair might also be the kind of thing archive.org might be interested in hosting
  38. 1 point
    1893 Grover Cleveland Visit Medal. Struck to commemorate President Grover Cleveland's visit to the World's Columbian Exposition and United States Mint Exhibit on May 1st 1893. Not sure if these were issued only on the day of his visit or continued as a souvenir item. The number of known examples would suggest a fairly limited distribution.
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    This is remarkable information. Thank you. I had no idea. I think of the adage: The only thing new in the world is the history you do not know.
  40. 1 point
    Thanks, Trey! I missed this thread first time around. And thanks, Speedwell for re-upping! Big Panorama fan here.
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    It would appear to be Thatcher Construction Co. http://nywf64.com/usrub02.shtml
  42. 1 point
    A lovely night view across Lemoyne Channel looking towards Scandinavia and Man the Explorer.
  43. 1 point
    Expo 67 clobbered NY in attendance because its purpose was more precise and clearer to those who decided to attend. NY modeled its second fair too closely on the 1939 Fair which failed to reach predicted attendance of fifty million in 1939. The 1964 fair even used the same layout on the same grounds but with half the original acreage but it fell far short of the 70 million the Fair Corporation predicted. Both Fairs ended up paying investors about forty cents on the dollar. The absolute certainty of both Fair Corporations as to attendance numbers and profits is still astounding today. If the 1964-65 NYWF somehow sparked some sort of appetite of Northeastern Americans for a second great fair, then how sad for NY because where were the extra 20 million needed to meet NY's own predictions? They didn't show up. Expo didn't just "look" more crowded. It was more crowded and considering it was nearly twice the geographic size of the NYWF (over 1,000 acres) those crowds were real and impressive. Expo's 50.3 million visitors in six months in a nation of 20 million people is incredible and remains a per capita world's fair attendance record today. NY's 51 million over two years doesn't compare especially when considering its own 70 million prediction. Expo organizers hoped for 12 to 15 million in one season. Their own expectations were absolutely shattered by the crowds which flooded the grounds day after day. Even primitive computer predictions in 1963 indicated Expo would never be built on time and would be fortunate to attract 12 million if it actually did open. It attracted that many in its first month. And Expo still holds the all time one day international exposition attendance record of 570 thousand (April 30, 1967). Two very different expositions. I loved NY but the international stuff was lame. Most international pavilions I saw were restaurants with gift shops and a number of news articles said the same thing in 1964.. It was an elaborate industrial show and it was fun but it just never captured the imagination of the numbers it hoped to attract. In addition, the brutally critical press that hammered Moses, the lack of architectural theme (as the 1939 fair had), the surprisingly low attendance numbers and the impending financial disaster did not help the NYWF in 1965 one bit. A number of magazines (Time and Look) even wondered aloud, between the seasons, if the 1965 fair would even open. The day I arrived in Montreal in 1967 with my school group, that city was bedecked with blue and white Expo flags. The logo was everywhere. The city was electric and focused on that exposition glittering on those remarkable islands. Expo celebrated Canada's centennial and that did capture the imagination of Canadians, of course, and of millions of Americans. Montreal schools closed for the opening day and the final Friday of Expo. People wanted to be there. Canadian press celebrated Expo over and over. Even US television shows broadcast from Expo. I can still hear Ed Sullivan's voice telling Americans "you have to get up here and see this fair." He had two live broadcasts from Expo. I understand Irv's comments about NY's technical flair, but Labyrinth, the Bell Canada 360 degree theatre and Kaleidoscope rivaled anything the US corporations offered even if one had to stand or walk through. And Expo let 50 million see the superpower showdown with the massive USA and USSR pavilions. I loved those international pavilions, the stunning architecture and, evidently, millions of others did as well. Several weeks ago, the Quebec Ministry of Culture declared Expo 67 "a major historic event" that should be taught as a vital part of Canadian history. NYS has never done that for either fair. New York State, over fifty years, hasn't even seen fit to salvage its own deteriorating 1964 pavilion and it never will. Irv, your photos are wonderful. Thank you for sharing them with us.
  44. 1 point
    I bet the parking lot owners in the area made out quite well!
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    It was often hard to get a good picture of the Ford Pavilion as it was just so big. Here's a view I made by pasting two shots together. The lady in the red coat shows up twice! Sometime in 1964.
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    I was only 8 when I went to the World's Fair, but I can remember standing in front of the Equitable population counter, and wonder if I fell over dead right then, if the count would go down by one. I thought maybe they had electronic feeds from every hospital in the country, keeping up with every birth and death accurately. :D
  47. 1 point
    Man, you literally don't miss an inch of this fair, do you, Bill? Unbelievable. I love it.
  48. 1 point
    Putting issues of sensitivity and political correctness aside for a moment... as a wordsmith with no prior knowledge of the souvenir in question... the first thing I thought of when I read the posting "Formica Indian headress" was; "Wow, that's gotta be really uncomfortable."
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    Here's the Small World dolls in the Sears Christmas catalog for 1965, courtesy of Randall Bennett who sent me the scan. Sears didn't have quite as extensive a selection as Aldens. Do you think today they would call Heidi's Jeep "gay pink" ?
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    Good point. I have never seen a Unisphere souvenir item for sale in NYC other than in a flea market etc. It is just not marketed as a current day souvenir of a trip to New York. One does not find tiny Unisphere paper weights sold next to small souvenir images of the Empire State Building or the Statue of Liberty. I have never seen a current post card containing an image of the Unisphere either. I wonder why this is the case. Is it possible that the Unisphere is not as well known or as recognized as we all think it is. For example, while I have students who have likely seen ithe Unisphere in advertisements and the like, when I show a photograph of it, they assume it is something from Disney or even the UN. They absolutely do not recognize it as a world's fair symbol or even as a NY icon and this is not a new situation. This has been the case, for the most part, for the 27 years I have been a teacher. Even when it appears on TV at the US Open, and we discuss it, they react with a vague sense of "oh, yeah, I saw that...What is it?" The Unisphere is something of an anonymous icon to much of the world, I suspect. But I still wonder why this is the case. Does it have something to do with its relative "isolation" in an outer borough and far from the usual tourist destinations? Is it dated? Does it lack architectural respect and stands as more of a curiosity than a piece of artistic sculpture? I do not have a clear answer.
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