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  1. 4 points
    I love this community. Its members are passionate about world's fairs and the combined knowledge stored here is vast and deep. The passion is a double-edged sword and eventually it wore me out. Occasionally things got negative, heated. People disagree with the choices you make. Some people stop talking to you. Some people end up hating you. Over the years the hobby started feeling more like a job and my passion waned. I'd look through old posts and wonder if I'd made the right decisions. My social visits became less frequent. I'd check in to ensure everything was running and not recognize the people posting. That's when I decided to hand the site over to Bill C. Like many have previously stated, the community is still here and vital. Nearly two decades after Bill Y. invited me to join him. That's something to celebrate and be proud of!
  2. 4 points
    I recently joined or re-discovered a couple of the Facebook groups regarding the Fair so it was interesting to me to read the comments about Facebook. I was surprised to see how little has been posted on the Facebook groups in the past few years. On the other hand, this bulletin board is alive with continuous postings from people with an interest. I don't think a day goes by that I check here that I don't see and read something new. So LONG LIVE the World's Fair Community! In this day and age of Facebook, it is still THE PLACE to go for people who share a love of World's Fairs! You all make this a great place to visit.
  3. 3 points
    Thanks for the post, Glen. Always good to hear from you. Happily we haven't had too many problems with trolls, and we do our best to take care of them as fast as possible when they surface. And I do try to keep politics, at least current ones, out of here so there's a place I can go without having to wory about the Argument of the Day from some folks on Facebook, etc. I plan on moving the board to a new host this summer, and will see what can be done about those missing images at that time. Same basic software, just a different hosting company.
  4. 3 points
    I just want to thank you again, Marc-- for funneling your passion into the original PTU-- for inviting me to be an Admin-- and for graciously allowing Bill to carry the site forward. I don't post as much as I used to, either. But man, oh man, am I glad the World's Fair Community is still around.
  5. 3 points
    After YEARS of delay, finally construction has started. Still don't know how much will get done and how fast, but the excellent and very much in demand "construction guy", Howie, is hot on it now and has done this much in two days, with the wood base cut and ready, but still not in place. However, the frame is almost complete. Most of the glass and plexi have to be replaced, but I am trying to figure out something to do with the original WF pieces of glass (only a few were not damaged in the taking down of the church/pavilion in Poway). We're waiting on the new glass and plexi, so that might be a short delay, as they are all custom pieces. Enjoy, news as it happens.
  6. 2 points
    The Twilight Zone... Maybe that is Global 33, the jet liner on route from London to NYC in 1961 that broke the sound and time barrier and found itself lost over New York City in 1939 with the world's fair below them . If "you hear the sound of jet engines flyings atop the overcast--engines that sound searching and lost--engines that sound desperate--shoot up a flare or do something. That would be Global 33 trying to get home--from The Twilight Zone." --Rod Serling, February 24, 1961 (episode 54)
  7. 2 points
    After having scanned thousands of slides from the Fair it's always fun to spot something new. Here's a view of a sign advertising "Disneyland Fun - Pepsi World's Fair Pavilion" on the way in to the Gotham Gate from the subway. I've never seen that sign before. It did it's best to hide in the shadows, as seen in the original scan. Newly restored 126 format slide from August 1965. and the original scan:
  8. 2 points
    ****WARNING: Long, Rambling Post Alert!**** Thank you, Trey! And I think this response might be indicative of what happened to so many of the regulars around here. When I came back and saw this thread I kinda made a promise to myself that I would come around more often and keep up with everything going on in the forums. Then...a month-and-a-half passed before I came back and saw your post above! No excuse, it's just what it is. The interesting thing about a community like this is that the one thing we all know about each other is that we all have at least ONE thing in common. And the whole point of this site is to celebrate that common interest. But of course we all have complete lives that contain so many other interests, commitments, responsibilities and so on... I'll bet many former members still (and always will) have that passion they feel/felt for the Fair, but other things just had to take precedence. I might try to reach out to a couple of the people mentioned in the OP to see if they might drop by to check in. We'll see if I actually get around to doing that! Trey, I also consider you a good friend, and am ever-thankful to this board for "introducing" me to you and so many others who I wouldn't have met otherwise, but who I now consider to be friends (yes, even if it's only an online friendship). When I first discovered the board I had only been "into" World's Fairs for a few years. At first it was exclusively 1939-40 (as I believe was the case with you at one point as well, correct Trey?). Then it spread to 1964-65. As mentioned earlier I was born a few years after the 1964-65 NYWF gates closed for good. So, unlike many of the original members, I had never had the opportunity to actually attend the Fair. But The wealth of information that everyone had and the passion for the subject really drew me in. I lurked for about a year and didn't actually join and start posting until someone here actually posted about ME when I had put up a display of my collection at the Worcester Public Library for the 40th anniversary of the '64 Fair (and 75th anniversary of '39). I quickly went from a "newbie" who knew practically nothing about the Fairs into being at least well-versed in the subject. Friends and family probably considered me to be an expert on the Fairs, but I knew the true experts were here. Like Trey mentioned, Facebook groups are riddled with inaccuracies that you don't really find here. If something incorrect is stated someone will more likely than not correct it. The FB groups are kind of like Wikipedia, while the WFC feels a bit more like a true encyclopedia, even if it is being "published" by its members. While I've rarely find myself visiting over the past few years, I love the fact that I can still get here by typing "pea" into my computer. It still autofills "peacethroughunderstanding.org" and clicking that STILL brings me here (yes, that DOES also say something not so good about the age of my computer, but that's another story). I feel that old name really did mean a lot to the board beyond being the theme of the Fair. There really did seem to be a lot of peace and understanding between members. It was like a micro-version of what the Fair proposed to accomplish--on a small community scale. Like I mentioned above, we all have different things that mean something to us, but we all have the Fair(s) in common. If we started veering from that (as is likely to happen in Facebook or other places) I'm sure that peace would have been short-lived. The few members who would come along and seem to only want to cause trouble or start something (ie: trolls) would quickly learn that this community didn't go for that. They'd usually calm down and join in on the fun--or possibly be banned. I can't say I've ever seen much in the way of politics being discussed here, and that makes me glad. Politics are extremely important, but also extremely polarizing. And, obviously, that's not the reason I come here. Sorry, I got long-winded once again. Oh well, that's just what I do I guess!
  9. 2 points
    When I was a teenager, back in the 1980s (gasp!), I met a hand full of folks that worked at the Great Lakes Exposition including a lovely lady who was a swimmer in the Aquacade. She said it was quite awful swimming in the lake, particularly towards the end of the expo. It got to the point where they coated themself with a Vaseline type substance to ward off the cold.
  10. 2 points
    That water looks to be brutally cold. Buster Crabbe replaced Johnny Weissmuller in NY in 1939 and Gertrude Ederle joined the swimmers in 1939. As a total aside, TCM ran the film Sunday In New York a few weeks ago. Filmed on location in NYC in 1963, it stars Jane Fonda, Rod Taylor and Cliff Robertson. Simply because of the date the movie was created, I wondered if I might spot something, anything, that would make reference to the upcoming 1964 NYWF. And I did find something. On Fifth Avenue in front of the mezzanine one leading to the ice rink at Rockefeller Center, a NYC metro bus stops to either take on or discharge Fonda and Taylor. There, on the front of the bus is an advertisement for The 1964 New York World's Fair. I had been watching the, advertising cards inside of the various bus scenes but could not spot a Fair reference and then I spotted the advertising card on the front of the bus. It's a small find, I realize, but it made my day.
  11. 2 points
    I found a nice surprise at the front door today - the first copies of my newest book! It's always a thrill to finally hold the final product in your hands after months of work. Street date is December 10.
  12. 2 points
    Welcome back, Glen. You're one of many friends I've made here-- and I'm very grateful for that. I will say one thing about the Facebook groups I'm a part of that are devoted to various Fairs and Expos-- I often find them frustratingly full of incorrect information. I think that's one of the things that first drew me to this website many moons ago. The members here don't just share a common interest in World's Fairs-- many of them have an extremely impressive level of knowledge about their history, planning, construction, exhibits, social impact, demolition, and legacies. In fact, it's hard to name a major World's Fair or Expo that you can't do some kind of deep dive research here on the WFC thanks to the thousands of posts and photos our members have made. Even after the numerous board crashes that unfortunately deleted links and pictures in the past (which may have been a contributing factor in forcing some of its early members to exit)-- in my opinion, this website still remains a preeminent source of factual information on the World's Fairs and Expos of yesterday and today.
  13. 2 points
    I found all the passports for our whole family in my vault.I was so relentless with getting mine stamped they had to issue my passport 2 times.... Every page jam packed. The UK stamp was unique on the queen birthday June 10th , 1967. That day only the stamp was issued with real gold . I know as I had it tested and they used gold laden ink..To this day it still shines bright inside my passport.
  14. 2 points
    Considering the way people drive cars on land, we may have dodged a bullet by not getting jetpacks and flying cars.
  15. 2 points
    It's Birds Eye Awake "frozen concentrate for orange-flavored breakfast drink."
  16. 2 points
    Good times and bum times, I've seen them all and, Sunguar, I'm still here.....since September 10, 2000!
  17. 2 points
    Facebook makes it hard to find anything more than a few days old. Never mind that they're continually tweaking what you see at all. I'd much rather visit a few different blogs and boards like this every day than trust Facebook for things I'm interested in.
  18. 2 points
    Hi suguar! I have a feeling a number of us have become "lurkers" more so than "posters." In my case, I still watch "the board" but just don't post often unless I have something to advertise that's new at nywf64.com The names you mention go "way back" to the early days when "PTU" as it was called then was a part of nywf64.com. "Way back" is going on 19 years ago! It's hard to believe that this bulletin board in one form or another has been around for that long! Some of the names you've mentioned I've lost track of as well. Others, like Mike Kraus, Liz Klug and Ken Thalheimer, Mary Ellen Coughlan, John McSweeny still have an interest in the Fair but just don't post here often any more. Interests change over 19 years too. I also think that part of the reason why you don't see some of the older names posting any more is that the "newness" of it might have worn off for some of them. You have to realize that 19 years ago, discovering that there were actually other people "out there" who share this interest was a big thing to us. All those years ago there just wasn't that much online that you could explore about the 1964/1965 New York World's Fair or other Fairs. Now, search Google for "1964 York Fair" and you will come up with a myriad of links to places to visit on the web that have a connection to the Fairs, be it UTube or any number of places where folks have posted their photos and memories. In 2000, PTU was actually a bit like a social club where people with a fascination for World's Fairs could "hang-out." It's still that way today but maybe just not as shiny and new as it was nearly two decades ago.
  19. 2 points
    Another celebrity sighting in a NYWF photo. "The blonde in this photograph is civil rights pioneer Edie Windsor. I just got an email back from one of her friends confirming it. Edie was an IBM executive. Edie was at the fair a lot. The woman feeding the giraffe is her wife Thea." Google turns some interesting stories about both women.
  20. 2 points
    Alan Abel, a resident of Connecticut and a life long "professional hoaxer," died on Friday. I mention this under general discussion because, in 1964, he and his wife, Jeanne , co-authored a book, The President I Almost Was, supposedly written by Mrs. Yetta Bronstein who ran an independent presidential campaign that year. Yetta formed her own political party (The Best Party) and used the slogan, "Vote For Yetta And Things Will Get Betta." They even handed out campaign materials in front of the White House and many, including members of the press, believed the campaign was real. Mr. Abel, in 1959, also created a bogus campaign known as SINA (Society for Indecency to Naked Animals) and, in 1963, demanded that Mrs. Kennedy, then First Lady, clothe her naked horses especially when riding in the Virginia countryside. Many news organizations, including the NY Times covered his 1963 protest outside of the White House. He proposed clothing any animal that stood taller than four inches and longer than six inches and the press fell for it. I mention all of this because Mr. Abel's hilarious and fictitious account of the 1964 presidential campaign has a chapter devoted to Yetta's campaign swing through the 1964 NY World's Fair. She focuses on her aching feet, the crowds and fair food. Not much is said about the issues of the day because, of course, the whole thing was a hoax. Mr. Abel also has the unique distinction of tricking the NY Times into writing an obituary for him in 1980. Mr. Abel got his family and friends in on the hoax and he went into hiding for several weeks and the Times reported his death of a heart attack with the headline: Alan Abel, Satirist Created Campaign To Clothe Animals. This time, following his death on Friday of this week, the Times did full research to be certain Mr. Abel was, indeed, dead. The Times notes that Mr. Abel "apparently did die" at his Connecticut home on Friday. That bogus obituary, written in full faith in 1980, prompted the Times to print the only retraction for such a fake obituary in its long history. Today's accurate obit calls Mr. Abel "an American original" much like P.T. Barnum. In a crazy world that seems to become nuttier each day, Mr. Abel was a remarkable character who brought humor and joy. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/obituaries/alan-abel-dies.html
  21. 2 points
    A little detective work produced this: On January 21, 2014 Bill Cotter posted: "Someone has finally found one of the Hertz strollers used at the Fair. It will be on "American Pickers" on the History Channel at 9 PM ET on January 22. I'm looking forward to seeing it. It's been tough sitting on the news until the show was ready to air." So that would be episode 3, Season 11. (Vermont, New York) Now to find it. (It's available on the History Channel website---stroller starts at 7:11) Gee, I would have bought it for $40.00
  22. 2 points
    An interesting find about the proposed 1996 Budapest World's Fair. The site was to have been divided between the Buda side of the Danube River and Margitsziget (Margaret's Island). Initial plans called for a joint exhibition in Vienna and Budapest in 1995. When Vienna lost interest, it was rescheduled for 1996 to celebrate the 1,100th anniversary of the founding of the Hungarian state. Sadly, it was never held.
  23. 2 points
    NYWF was probably the first place I saw moving walkways. A moving INCLINE must’ve been a real treat for my young self! Like kids having more fun w the boxes Christmas presents come in, some of the most fascinating aspects of NYWF were not the featured exhibits and displays, but the buildings they came in and the logistics and conveyances surrounding them.
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  26. 2 points
    The Tower of the Four Winds, May 1964
  27. 2 points
    Another restored large-format slide.
  28. 1 point
    Mike, you and I would BOTH be interested to know. Try and get listed on a major search engine! Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes you're not. The best hope for sites like ours (yours included now!) is to get linked to rings and as links off of as many other related sites as possible. Hopefully one of us will hit the big times and can bring the others along via the links! I've found that it's not easy to make it to the top of the heap, no matter what you have to offer - good, bad or indifferent! Bill
  29. 1 point
    Sounds like me when I was leaving for the last time. I imagine many of us here had the same sort of moment. Quite indelible, wasn't it?
  30. 1 point
    Nighttime. Fair. Fireworks. Fountains. You really don't have to say anything else.
  31. 1 point
    That was great, must have taken hours finding the right pictures. I`m glad everyone seems supportive of your project, and realizes this is a means to an end in creating a wonderful presentation for fans, not to make a retirement fund. I also have this record, and once tried to line it up with moving images from expo. Let`s just say, the Academy did not have an award waiting for me. Thank you for having the patience to create this, and look forward to the finished product.
  32. 1 point
    The first photo is the Civil Engineering Pavilion at the 1958 Brussels World's Fair. It actually survived for several years after the Fair closed but was eventually demolished to make way for a new structure. Here is a more complete photo showing the entire building.
  33. 1 point
    The multi level expressway in the background certainly speaks volumes about the overall ambience (or lack thereof) of the Amusement Zone in 1964. I've been to rural county fairs with more charm than we see in this rather chaotic scene. What is the date on the photo? People are wearing sweaters and jackets. Maybe it was the final weeks of 1965 and Fair crew had begun the process of throwing in the towel and just let the sign dangle there. The ticket booth to the dancing waters looks like it was swiped from the East Cheesecake County Fair held every year at Elk Snout, Nebraska. I'll still never quite understand finally getting to a world's fair, ANY world's fair, and then hanging in what amounts to the carnival section. Chicago in 1893 had the first Midway and it held some remarkable charms from the Ferris Wheel to native villages to hoochee coochee dancers. I get the appeal of that particular amusement area just as I understand the allure of the 1939 NY Amusement Zone (Hey, there was a naked woman frozen in a block of ice for god's sake) but why plan a trip and devote time to carnival rides you could easily find at any amusement park or state fair? With all of the once-in-a-lifetime experiences across the fairgrounds what is the appeal of bumper cars? On top of that, the pavilions with their spectacular shows and rides were FREE.
  34. 1 point
    Pre-opening billboard. Newly restored 35mm slide.
  35. 1 point
    Today's Non-Sequitur cartoon - a parks commissioner with too much authority
  36. 1 point
    It's difficult to realize that young man must be about 80 today. Then it hits me that I'm fifty years older as well and that my warranty has run out.
  37. 1 point
    I also remember how much the setting and display impressed my parents. And what that critic never understood is that the very opportunity provided to tens of millions of visitors just to see the Pieta was, in itself, priceless. That sculpture would have blown minds by its beauty if it had been displayed in the pavilion kitchen.
  38. 1 point
    The contact at New York Telephone is Joe Bell. You can't make this stuff up.
  39. 1 point
    Isn't it funny how something can have you stumped, but if you lay it down for awhile (in this case a couple of years) and then come back and look at it.....and nail it in just a few minutes. It's the Carnival Pavilion all right. My hunch (which didn't even occur to me two years ago) was based solely on the 'hobby horse' and the 'box office' sign, both very weak clues. But I was able to nail it based on a clue I overlooked- the handrails. Although I don't have photos of the Carnival Pavilion entrance in 1965, I went back to the Texas Pavilion 1964 photos, and a couple- especially this one- jumped out at me immediately. A LOT changed for 1965, but those handrails are an exact match. The metal columns are the same but re-painted. The striped walls are the same size panels, just re-painted. The box office is still in the same location, with ticket windows (off to the left, not visible, in the hobby horse picture). Steps- same location of course. Flourescent lights- an exact match. The Coca-Cola counter is newly added for 1965 it would seem. And the best confirmation of all- NOBODY moved the gray trash can!! <!-- s:D --><!-- s:D --> Here's the 1964 photo of the same area: I HAD this '64 photo two years ago, but the thinking trail just didn't lead me there at the time...
  40. 1 point
    Putting issues of sensitivity and political correctness aside for a moment... as a wordsmith with no prior knowledge of the souvenir in question... the first thing I thought of when I read the posting "Formica Indian headress" was; "Wow, that's gotta be really uncomfortable."
  41. 1 point
    I agree Bill - The most fun that I get out of this "hobby" (for lack of a better term) is sharing something that I've found interesting with the rest of you, and then reading the responses to what I have posted. Hopefully it sparks a good bit of dialog, and in the best cases, a little insight to something that hadn't been noticed or fully understood before. (In fact, I almost feel a little let-down whenever I post something that I thought was pretty cool, and nobody comments on it all!) But what truly baffles me about some of these "big spenders" is why they feel compelled to buy more than one example of the same item? Do they really need to buy 7 or 8 copies of the same NYWF Information Manual at $250-$500 a pop? Are they expecting to find some earth-shattering information in that eighth copy that wasn't there in the previous seven (and then keep it to themselves)? To each his own I guess, but it must be a pretty miserable and lonely way to go through life... Best Regards, Kevin
  42. 1 point
    Sorry, Kevin, but I will have to turn you into the Royal Brotherhood of Mascots office - expect a visit from some costumed characters soon. You'll spot them easily - they'll be the ones with baseball bats. It was actually funny when people would try things like punching you. Well, usually. The costumes are so padded that you didn't feel a direct hit very much. You could extract revenge by swinging your characters's head towards them or bumping it into them. Seems that Fiberglas heads can hurt. Likewise when people would try squeezing your hands while shaking with them. I would be wearing a big padded glove, they weren't. Guess who got hurt when the squeeze was returned? The worst was when people would shove you, as the costumes were unwieldy to start with. The only time I really got hurt was when playing one of the villains from Pinocchio, as a small kid tried to protect Pinocchio by kicking me in the knee. That one hurt! The worst part was that I was in management and was just doing it as a lark, so I got hurt but not paid for it. I think I did about 6 characters overall, but Chip was my favorite. Unfortunately they downsized the costume and it's too short for me now, so no more of that particular fun at Disneyland.
  43. 1 point
    Season 5 would in fact be 1964-65, just the right time to do a Fair tie-in! Personally, I always felt the birth of Pebbles and the arrival of Bam-Bam were the true "Jump The Shark" moments for this series. The first two years are much better, with a lot more edge to them.
  44. 1 point
    You and me both, Kevin! I wonder if TBTA might have them? Or were they given to the demolition contractors? Alas, I think they're gone forever.....
  45. 1 point
    I'm 42, technically old enough to have been at the fair, but my folks never went even though it was only a 3 hour drive. I first found out about the fair looking at a National Geographic and wondering what it was and how it differed from DisneyWorld, where I spent many vacations. Several years ago I asked my family (grandparents, uncles, aunts, etc) if they ever went to the fair. They have many items from travels. EVERYONE said no. Never went, never took pictures, never got souveniers, barely even know what I'm talking about. Very clearly spelled out I was talking about the 1964 New York Worlds Fair. Showed them my guidebook and National Geographic. No. Never went. I asked everyone this question a few holidays ago when everyone was in one place. Everyone can recall the most minute details of the historical past like when a dinner at a resturant was delayed an hour on August 14, 1959 and they were late to the movies. About a year ago I got a combo deck VCR/DVD-R and archived all of my home videos as well as a 4 VHS set of old home movies that had been sent out for a video tape conversion. I watched them for the first time with the family on the occasion of my dad's funeral. On about 10 minutes of the DVD is most of the family standing in front of the Unisphere and then walking around outside the GM pavilion. The entire side of my dad's family sees themselves at the fair but have no recollection. They don't even know WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT. My aunt (only 18 years older than I am) seems to recall that they went "to New York to see some event" in the sixties. My hope now is that somewhere in the attic at my grandparent's is the 500 slide jackpot of WF pics that no one recalls taking.
  46. 1 point
    Wow! Hadn't caught that, Bill. They really DID do it with smoke and mirrors! When the photo is oriented correctly, the USA looks like a comma, and in the flopped version, the USA looks right. Neat catch! Does anybody else besides me use the continents to orient themselves in Fair photos?
  47. 1 point
    (Here I go again....) Let's remember that the guy is SELLING photographs, not creating another WF fan website. That we all enjoy the photos he has posted is a delightful side issue. But he, and his potential customers, should have the correct information on what he is selling, and what they are buying, should they not? In my opinion, we're doing the guy a service.
  48. 1 point
    I for one was heartbroken when it was discovered that "Bozo Land" was not going to be a part of the Fair. Also, the Fair's decision not to give exhibit space to "Racecar Monkeys" nearly kept me away from the fair altogether.
  49. 1 point
    Dear Bill Young- I remember sitting anxiously in front of my computer 2 years ago waiting for 10 a.m. on 4/22/2000... For weeks before I had been checking the cool "website under construction" pages you posted using the familiar Unisphere being built photos. "Website to Open April 22, 2000 at 10 am" (Bill? didn't you have a day countdown timer like the fair?) Just before 10 am the "gates" opened to <a href="http://www.nywf64.com" target="_blank">www.nywf64.com !</a> What a rush I felt! By the time I found your website visits counter it was at "00003" it's now almost 52,000! What an incredibly good site then and certainly now! From that site came a friendly and dynamic "Peace Through Understanding" web community - a memorable "Saturday in the Park" event and many lasting friendships with former "lone wolves" interested in the 64 fair. Bill Young, thanks. I've told you this before; Every student or hobbyist of the '64-'65 World's Fair I have met has had peices of the big puzzle. But, what sets you and nywf64.com apart was that you supplied the puzzle's borders, the frame work so that all these peices could come together, fit in, make sense and show the bigger picture! Wishing you and <a href="http://www.nywf64.com" target="_blank">www.nywf64.com</a> many, many more years of Fair fun, Fair facts and Fair friendships!!! Richard Post Park Bench [This message has been edited by Park Bench (edited 04-22-2002).]
  50. 1 point
    I remember sitting anxiously in front of my PC two years ago too, Bench, wondering if anyone would visit the website and watching that counter click and being amazed that people were actually taking a look! I also remember that Rita made a special brunch that day (it was a Saturday) to celebrate the opening of the website. Lots of memories and it was two years ago already. I am so greatful for the friendships I've made and the kindness you've all shown me over the past two years. I have learned so much about the Fair from you all. Thank you so much for all you've given me and I appreciate the kind words. I'll try to keep putting new things on line as much as I can. Bill