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Yet another "Then and Now" Series of Photos...

#1 User is offline   Yadda Yadda 

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 07:31 AM

Hi All,

I recently made a really big GIF file (about 20MB) that shows how the park has changed in the last 40 years.
Here a few reduced size excerpts that I thought you all might enjoy...

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Best Regards,
Kevin

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 08:04 AM

These are wonderful photographic images. Thank you for posting them. Is there any chance that you might have an aerial photograph of the park in the years after demolition of the 1940 fair and before the construction began on the 1964 fair? Again, many thanks.

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 09:15 AM

Jim, on Sep 8 2005, 09:04 AM, said:

Is there any chance that you might have an aerial photograph of the park in the years after demolition of the 1940 fair and before the construction began on the 1964 fair? <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Hi Jim,

Sorry, I'm afraid I don't have anything from that period of time...

Best Regards,
Kevin

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 09:15 AM

Kevin,

I animated your wonderful aerials.

Click on image...F5 or refresh button to reload.

Give it a chance to load- big file.

Mitch

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 09:29 AM

Jim, on Sep 8 2005, 08:04 AM, said:

These are wonderful photographic images.  Thank you for posting them.  Is there any chance that you might have an aerial photograph of the park in the years after demolition of the 1940 fair and before the construction began on the 1964 fair?  Again, many thanks.
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There were some pictures like this in the first progress report issued by the Fair Corp. I think Bill Young has one on his site somewhere.

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 11:08 AM

MitchS, on Sep 8 2005, 10:15 AM, said:

Kevin,

I animated your wonderful aerials...

Mitch
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Thanks Mitch,

That's sort of what my 20MB GIF file looks like, except that it's a little bit bigger in size, and there are 19 separate increments (instead of 5) between the 1964 photo and the one from the present.

Best Regards,
Kevin

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 11:20 AM

Bill Cotter, on Sep 8 2005, 10:29 AM, said:

There were some pictures like this in the first progress report issued by the Fair Corp. I think Bill Young has one on his site somewhere.
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Hi Bill,

I think this is the article that you were referring to: http://www.nywf64.com/building01.shtml - There are several good aerial photos starting around page 11, but they are a little small for my needs.

I keep telling myself that one of these days, I need to cough-up the $66.75 and buy all Fair News and Progress Report CD's on Bill Young's website... http://www.nywf64.com/shopping03.shtml

Best Regards,
Kevin

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 12:21 PM

Great photos! Thanks! Was wondering what the approximate dates were on each of the photos?

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 01:30 PM

winkd2, on Sep 8 2005, 01:21 PM, said:

Great photos!  Thanks!  Was wondering what the approximate dates were on each of the photos?
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The B&W photo was taken in May 1964. Not certain about the color photo, but it looks like they are still working on the new addition to the Science Museum, so I'd say it's probably in the 2003-2004 timeframe.

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Kevin

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 02:07 PM

Gee Kevin,

I'd love to see the big file. 20MB is tough to send around electronically though.


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Posted 08 September 2005 - 03:57 PM

Is it me or is the same picture used twice for the last two images?

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 04:13 PM

I posted a comment about the Aquacade area different in the last two, and in the very last picture the last "footprints" of the Florida Pavilion have disappeared.
Then I deleted the comment, because there are "ghosts" of the pavilions in many of the pictures.
So it looks like beginning and ending pictures are overlaid over each other (carefully aligned) and gradually the pavilions were "ghosted out" over time until in the last picture they're not there any more.
Like you'd see running the animation.

In picture #3, Arthur Ashe Stadium and the United States Pavilion seem to be siamese twins.

So I don't think the "in between" pictures are what you would have necessarily actually seen from overhead in an airplane. They're more like gradations in time lapse photography. For instance we would never actually see the Arthur Ashe Stadium in the same picture when you can still see the outlines of Bell and General Electric. Am I wrong?

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 04:17 PM

Was an access ramp to the expressway added after the Fair, right behind where Ford had been, leading to/from the Hall of Science?

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 06:58 PM

Bill Cotter, on Sep 8 2005, 04:57 PM, said:

Is it me or is the same picture used twice for the last two images?
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Hi Bill,

No, they are two different pictures. What I did was overlay the "today" photo on top of the 1964 photo and then change the opacity of the today photo from 0% to 100%.

From top-to-bottom you are seeing the following "opacities" of 0%, 25%, 50%, 75%, and 100%. If you look closely at Arthur Ashe stadium in the last two photos, you'll still see "ghosts in the second-to-last photo (75%), but not in the last one (100%).

Actually, as I mentioned my reply to MitchS, I really did the opacities in increments of 5% for my GIF File (0%, 5%, 10%, 15%, etc), and I must say the effect is pretty cool!

PS - If anybody has any ideas on where I can post a 20MB file, I'd be happy to share it with everybody.

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 05:04 AM

Thanks again, Kevin. I am enjoying studying these photographs. Great stuff.

PS: There really are ghost images of some of the pavilions as is stated above. I can sense this with the GM Pavilion and the first image showing the vacant site. That is very interesting.

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